Body/Trim: 164: Surface rust

[Lesky]

Hello all,

I have noticed some surface rust on my 164 and am wondering if there is anything I can do to combat it without actually sanding, grinding, or any other fabrication work. I am a student and don't have a shop or the proper tools. The areas where I have noticed the rust is on the bottom of the doors, along the side of the hood, at the back near the rear bumper mounts, and on some spots on the underside. Even if you know of something that would help delay the rust, that would be excellent.

Thanks in advance!

[john h]

If you apply some Dinotrol or Waxoyl or similar (I don't know the brand names where you live) it will slow down the rust, but you need to plan to repair it.

If it really is just on the surface, all you need to do a holding repair is sandpaper, rust-killer, some paint and a brush. Can easily be done outside - if it's dry of course.

If you post up some close-up photos of the various rusty areas I can advise better.

John

[Lesky]

I will post some pictures of the rust in the next day or so. I am on holiday and don't have a camera with me. I will have them up by Saturday.

[RealEstate]

Originally Posted by john h

If you apply some Dinotrol or Waxoyl or similar (I don't know the brand names where you live) it will slow down the rust, but you need to plan to repair it.

I have been using Dinitrol (from rust.co.uk). Spray inside chassis, door sills etc. You can use the black one externally, eg under wheel arches etc. They do spray cans. I find it easier to work with than waxoyl especially in low temps. Said to be vg stuff, used on military vehicles.
As regards killing surface rust without sanding/chemical removers, I've used KBS products. They do a starter kit for ~£30 which includes cleaner, etch and rust sealing coat. There's some excellent movies on U-tube of KBS products:
http://www.therustshop.com/shop/inde...d&productId=51
http://www.kbs-coatings.com/
Alot cheaper than POR15 and said to be better.

If you want a super shiny bodywork finish, then you are into chemical rust removal, filling, priming, painting etc.
All the best,

[Lesky]

Here are some photos of the spots I'm most concerned about at the moment. I haven't done a thorough check of the underside. I'm a little nervous too, actually.

I'll start with the driver's door. This is one has it the worst.

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0006.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0007.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0008.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0010.jpg

It looks like someone had actually tried to fix this before but did a very poor job.

On to the passenger door. This one doesn't have it as bad.

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0004.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0005.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0019.jpg

Now the hood. I think I'll be able to patch this spot up myself.

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0011.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0012.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0013.jpg

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0014.jpg

And one little spot just beneath the left brake lamp

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0021.jpg

And just for kicks. Here is my pride and joy

http://s835.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=DSCF0023.jpg

[Lesky]

Also, if there is a better way to post photos rather than a million links please let me know. Thanks!

[john h]

Do you want to do a temporary holding job, just to stop the rust getting worse, or a repair which looks OK? Either is possible with just a few tools.

John

[Lesky]

I would really like to repair it. I can always go back and make it look better latter on, but I would really like to get rid of the rust completely. I live in a fairly wet climate so I think this is the best route to take.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Lesky

I would really like to repair it. I can always go back and make it look better latter on, but I would really like to get rid of the rust completely. I live in a fairly wet climate so I think this is the best route to take.

Hi I use Jenalit [ Not spelt right but sounds right ]Just painted on then let it dry , it leaves a rust free surface to work on , the MOD use it [ I bye it via Ebay cheaper .
I`ve used it for about 40 + years .
Regards
Mike B

[RealEstate]

Originally Posted by Lesky

I would really like to repair it. I can always go back and make it look better latter on, but I would really like to get rid of the rust completely. I live in a fairly wet climate so I think this is the best route to take.

Depending on the weather where you live, if you can only work outside and it's damp, I would do a temporary 'holding' repair till next summer. This would involve just scraping off loose rust and spraying with Dinitrol. Also spray inside the doors especially along the seams at the bottom where the damp gets trapped . Chooose a dry day.

If you have access to a dry workshop/garage, or in the summer, you can do a permanent repair. This will involve removing all the rust, ideally to bare metal, using a wire brush and probably some chemicals, eg Jenolite, Bilt Hamber Deox etc, and treating with primer & then paint eg KBS coating products, then finally your topcoat. Finally treat with Dinitrol.
All the best,