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Old May 23rd, 2024, 20:03   #6501
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Piggy bank safe from the hammer Steve😁
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… we agree about that one Andrew, I’ve saved it and will keep an eye on the auction. I really do need to get another garage and a half built at ‘Vegas, but I suppose if the price was right for the 164 then… .

I think I posted a piece in the 1800 section about me having more or less committed to buy Delores (1973 P1800ES) in the autumn. I’d have to pay proper money for that - so if the 164 was cheaper by a good margin then we would have to see.



Addendum: I’ve attached a photo of the space I want to fit another garage and a half into - so it looks like it was a double in the first place. Once that is done I can acquire another interesting motor car. I have a timber carport kit arriving next Tuesday for GAM to live under.

I think the 164 has a real Gentleman’s Club interior so naturally I thought of you Alan!
Don’t you just love the burgundy leather?🧐
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Even made me splutter when I saw that one, I suppose its just a dealer 'flying a kite' to test the water, I see it's also on Car & Classic website.

Can see it staying on there for quite a while, or until Moomoo empties his piggybank

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Flying a kite? High as a kite, more like!

Seem to recall seeing that a few months back for ~£10k but "oop norf" somewhere.............
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I think the 164 has a real Gentleman’s Club interior so naturally I thought of you Alan!
Don’t you just love the burgundy leather?🧐
Actually I like everything about that motor car Dave - it would suit me better than the P1800ES but I've sort of agreed to buy that one once I am able to accommodate it.

Plans change though, so I'll keep an eye on the 164, if it went for a good enough price I might be tempted.

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Flying a kite? High as a kite, more like!

Seem to recall seeing that a few months back for ~£10k but "oop norf" somewhere.............
I wonder whether it is a commission sale by the dealer - the seller wants 10 grand an so has added the commission onto the price?

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Now then.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126503875...Bk9SR8rM1pD4Yw
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Well I think a certain gent from the Lincs coast might be able to attend to that one in a jiffy.

But then again, I’m a sucker for column change auto😀

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Well I think a certain gent from the Lincs coast might be able to attend to that one in a jiffy.

But then again, I’m a sucker for column change auto😀

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I suspect said gent will be sticking to GAM and any further acquisitions will be differently shaped, perhaps P1800ES shaped............

As for column change autos, i've got one but it's 36 years newer than that one......
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Well I think a certain gent from the Lincs coast might be able to attend to that one in a jiffy.

But then again, I’m a sucker for column change auto😀

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What a nice looking motor car - and if the description is candid the issues are something any moderately competent person would have sorted out by tea time.

Dave is right though, there is a P1800ES or 164 shaped hole waiting to be filled in the second garage I've yet to build.



Addendum: the carport kit showed up in the mail yesterday - one step closer.
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Alan, I can't find your post for some reason about why people will pay a couple grand for a 30 year old car that's nowhere near tax and MOT exempt and I've been thinking about this in terms of the 940 this morning.

The con rods are 9mm thick until I think it was 1989/90 then they went to 13mm rods as the 9mm rods have been known to snap in standard tune with a bit of wheel spinning. Then in 1994 I think it was they fitted oil squirters which was to help prevent (and it works) the piston slap that the 80's Volvo's and early 940s had.

The most desirable gearbox is the M90 manual which was introduced on the L reg so 94 onwards, this went through two revisions to make it stronger in 1996 and again at the very end of 1997.

The door cards peel but the glue was revised about 1995 so they're much less likely to peel... They still do though just not as bad.

The interior was updated about 1995 too so it looks much nicer. Honestly if you sit in an early 940 and then a later 940 the subtle changes make a big difference!

Then the celebration model in 1998 had the faux wood trim and egg crate grille which are desirable.

Around 1995/6 they did the sports edition too with turbo +, galaxy alloys, egg crate grille and the boot spoiler.

So ironically unlike all the other Volvo series it's actually the later ones that are the most desirable which is why they fetch more money than the earlier ones even though they're closer to tax and MOT exemption. The ones that command the most are factory sports editions that haven't been stripped off all their goodies and celebrations so it is literally the last few years of production that command the big bucks. Especially with us younger folk getting in to the Volvos we want a strong engine, turbo and manual so 97/8 are the ones to go for.

Then you have the 740/60 turbos which are so rare at this point that a factory turbo 700 series even in dire condition will fetch decent money, but they're quite close to exemption now, my MK1 760 turbo is only two years away from exemption.
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