What's the problem with electric cars?

[SnineT]

Sorry peeps gonna have to sober you up party is over so to speak.

Before you click the link below I'd like to say I take no pleasure in posting this but if you are the sort of person who can still listen please have a read and consider what I am going to add to the link or links as it may be.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...2-injured.html

Scroll down to the remains of the BMW and then consider that an EV or even a hybrid with a cell pack in them would not have gone boom literally before you'd have a chance to get out, two lithium cells once compromised fuse and explode almost instantly, sadly this has resulted in 2 deaths and multiple injuries and there's no mention of an EV in the crash and I can only add to that that I hope the injured make full recoveries and my condolences to those that lost someone today.

Below is what happens when lithy cells simply short by touching each other or gain a connection between them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-a405s1eio&t=124s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgdpysXUkA


Whole point to the post is today it was a gas engine but imagine a pile up where every car is fitted with lithium cells.

[The Thong]

Originally Posted by SnineT

Sorry peeps gonna have to sober you up party is over so to speak.

Before you click the link below I'd like to say I take no pleasure in posting this but if you are the sort of person who can still listen please have a read and consider what I am going to add to the link or links as it may be.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...2-injured.html

Scroll down to the remains of the BMW and then consider that an EV or even a hybrid with a cell pack in them would not have gone boom literally before you'd have a chance to get out, two lithium cells once compromised fuse and explode almost instantly, sadly this has resulted in 2 deaths and multiple injuries and there's no mention of an EV in the crash and I can only add to that that I hope the injured make full recoveries and my condolences to those that lost someone today.

Below is what happens when lithy cells simply short by touching each other or gain a connection between them.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-a405s1eio&t=124s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgdpysXUkA


Whole point to the post is today it was a gas engine but imagine a pile up where every car is fitted with lithium cells.

Indeed, before long though they’ll be everywhere unfortunately. I saw the warnings about the M40 being closed when I got in the M5 at Walsa today


TT

[SnineT]

This one might bring it home to anyone thinking this is a good idea, it's foreign but dub'd, skip to 6.45 for the first real example, then go to 8.35 where the extinguisher fails and on to the main event at 10.00 onwards and I'd recommend at least the next 5 minutes footage to see how it dies off and then comes back to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXbYh8UkbRI


A Tesla probably has 10-15 of those packs in it.


Intense.

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by SnineT

Sorry peeps gonna have to sober you up party is over so to speak.

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All passenger vehicles, including electric vehicles, are put through intensive NCAP testing, including smashing them pretty much into oblivion.

A quick google of electric cars in crashes shows a multitude of them being totalled without bursting into flames as you claim.

Electric vehicles obviously do present their own unique risks of course. However one might suggest there is a fair bit of scaremongering going on here.

I’m also surprised that you shared an article about people sadly being killed in a car crash not involving electric vehicles - as evidence of the dangers of electric vehicles (?).

[SnineT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmqMtPgST4&t=2s


I shared it because atm the majority of cars are still gas powered and if one of them ends up like this then imagine what an EV is going to go up like, I don't share your faith in the marketing and another vid I don't have to hand showed the disassembly of a Ford eMustang battery pack and the engineer found that the battery crate was weak.

These things aren't new to me as I'm a long time vaper and I've seen the stories of people losing fingers and half their face from just one cell going thermal normally in unregulated devices that don't have the safety stuff in them, some people swap the safety for the power angle of these things.

[SnineT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmbHpqWjMVE&t=2s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zkLNp8HOCU&t=2s

[baggy798]

We all need to do our bit to support climate change.😂

[Cull06]

Originally Posted by SnineT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QmqMtPgST4&t=2s


I shared it because atm the majority of cars are still gas powered and if one of them ends up like this then imagine what an EV is going to go up like, I don't share your faith in the marketing and another vid I don't have to hand showed the disassembly of a Ford eMustang battery pack and the engineer found that the battery crate was weak.

These things aren't new to me as I'm a long time vaper and I've seen the stories of people losing fingers and half their face from just one cell going thermal normally in unregulated devices that don't have the safety stuff in them, some people swap the safety for the power angle of these things.

You know that cars with traditional fuel engines can certainly go up in flames following a crash too right? Scarily fast too if you’ve ever seen it for yourself.

“I don't share your faith in the marketing” - Nor me. Marketing is just that. But I’m not sure what marketing you are referring to? Unless you are referring to the Euro NCAP crash testing I mentioned as marketing(?).

[SnineT]

Originally Posted by Cull06

You know that cars with traditional fuel engines can certainly go up in flames following a crash too right? Scarily fast too if you’ve ever seen it for yourself.

“I don't share your faith in the marketing” - Nor me. Marketing is just that. But I’m not sure what marketing you are referring to? Unless you are referring to the Euro NCAP crash testing I mentioned as marketing(?).

Yes and that's the point I'm trying to make, a petrol car is almost as bad in that it also has a flash point, a diesel requires vaporised compression to light up so once again proving to be the most frugal, torqued, "safe" fuel available.

NCAP sadly is about as far as a simulation can go and more about saving the occupants legs and necks rather than what's left of the car, the shot of the BMW shows that whatever rear ended it would've easily compromised a battery sledge either in the boot, through the tunnel or the whole floor. And before you respond please show me the NCAP for multiple vehicles at 70mph in fog or heavy rain.

Remember the people who are pushing the EV agenda outside of the car makers aren't of an engineering background, they will just grab onto the next new thing and say sorry later, they forced the car makers down this road.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOevX4DlGk

[Existential Crisis]

I don't think ev are inherently more dangerous than ICE, and I also don't buy the claim we have all fallen for marketing hype. The most archaic, noisiest, least refined part of any car is its engine. Most of us use our cars for a task, for many that is a commute. The best commuter car I ever owned was a Lexus LS400. Why? Utter, incomparable refinement. An EV can provide this in spades. Can't wait till I can afford a decent one. Minimal maintenance in comparison to ICE, warm in the mornings, serene in use, no need to use smelly, germ covered petrol or diesel pumps. Sounds like a great solution for my needs anyway, no marketing hype involved.