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Apr 21st, 2021, 17:28 | #611 | |
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The rule seems to be, "to change the way the vehicle works". Change in engine number, an interesting point yes, but perhaps a separate issue?. Stephen .
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If the engine change is different than the original (larger capacity, more horse power etc) it would be a change to how the vehicle works according to the original technical requirements as listed
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If it was a B200FT and has been fitted without the turbo and LH2.4-Jetronic injection system which appears to be the case then it would likely only put out about 90bhp on a good day because of the lower compression ratio. If on the other hand they'd fitted a B230FT with the turbo and injection to give 165bhp then yes, that would be a material modification. As far as i can tell from the listing it's to keep it mobile while the original engine is repaired and refitted. I suppose like a lot of DVLA paperwork there's a bit of latitude for interpretation, a reconditioned/secondhand engine is likely on many cars that are in the 40+ year old age group. As such a secondhand 1.3 X-Flow from a Capri or Cortina fitted into an Escort of a similar age that originally had a 1.3 X-Flow wouldn't be a modification, just a like-for-like replacement.
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According to the original "technical requirements" ... what does that mean? I doubt whether "how the vehicle works" can be defined in those words. Stephen .
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An interesting variation thank you Dave. I doubt if "to change the way the vehicle works" has ever been defined. So far. Stephen .
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I do think they phrase "to change the way the vehicle works" is rather misleading. How can a Chassis swap "Change the way it works" unless you carry out full suspension overhaul with it. I think their intention is to keep the vehicle "as it was originally meant to be" and if you start putting newer enginees in the vehicle, later chassis, body etc these are all major items of the vehicles age and therefore would fall into requiring an MOT. For example, say the car is 45 years old, however you put a 20 year old engine in the car. The engine swap would then require an MOT for another 20 years until the engine passes historic age. I dont think the DVLA are that organised though to be able to track it, therefore they should have said "changes such as replacement engines of newer age, chassis, or body that have a material change to the original specificaiton of the car".
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In this case the engine swap doesn't really change the price of fish, but it still isn't quite right and would be a good reason not to pay £10,000 for the motor car (there would be others, such as: it is only worth half that much). Alan
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So the meaning of "to change the way the vehicle works" remains not really known.
Alan is right that there doesn't appear to be any tracking of changes. If any alleged discrepancy "comes to notice" then "officialdom" will probably "appear" .... Notify a change in engine number, an interesting point yes, but perhaps a separate issue?. Now as for that £10,000 .......... who am I to say. Stephen .
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Perhaps it will reappear on Car and Classic next?
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