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May 3rd, 2014, 16:35 | #1 |
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Towing Weights of D4 FWD Manual 2015 version
Does anyone know why the max towing weight of the xc60 D4 FWD manual has been reduced from 1800kg on the 2014 version to 1600Kg on the 2015 version? And what someone should do if they've ordered one needing the 1800Kg level as the 1600Kg limit is too low for their caravan?
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May 3rd, 2014, 17:28 | #2 |
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Page 15 of the 2015 price list should give the answer
https://www.media.volvocars.com/uk/e...5/documentfile |
May 3rd, 2014, 17:36 | #3 |
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Bit odd this cos if you look at the new brochure which I have just downloaded it still quotes 1800.
One thing I would say is what the hell are u towing even the biggest swift challenger has a max weight of 1650, and as 1800 is about the weight of the car you would be towing at 100%, not really an ideal towing weight, never tow myself with more than 90%, becomes a case of the tail wagging the dog.
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I have no idea. But if you needed the bigger capacity, I would speak with your dealer: this is a change in spec, so if you have to change then I don't think they would object.
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May 3rd, 2014, 17:50 | #5 |
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It's often to do with the limitations of the transmission. The manual version of my D5 AWD has a lower limit than my Geartronic.
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aye....but the MY14.5 is different to the MY15...for the same D4 FWD whichever gearbox you look at....which kinda makes no real sense!
(not that it impacts me as someone who doesn't really tow, but I can see why it is a weird one!)
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I give up then
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No idea why the figures all over the place are different, although the caravan you mention will have a MTPLM (fully loaded weight) of 1630kg, and doubtful it would ever be loaded to that weight. So long as the actual weight of what you are towing is no more than what the car is allowed to tow, and that the gross train weight (car and caravan together with all passengers/luggage) is within the limits allowed, all should be fine. Ok if stopped by the police it may be questioned and your outfit may be weighed. Same with insurance - they may say they will not pay out in the event if a claim, although cannot see how they could prove that the caravan was overweight, as what is stopping someone hugely overloading a caravan with a MTPLM within what the car is permitted to tow? I have towed caravans/trailers with a MTPLM higher than what the car is allowed to tow - although the actual weight of the caravan/trailer has obviously been within the weight limits of the car. I remember a bizzare thing with some Renault 7 seaters is that they quoted a tow weight, think it was 1300kg driver only, and with any passengers it dropped I think to around half this. I queried this and said ''so if I have a passenger I can only tow half the allowed weight''. The answer was ''yes''. Me being me then said - ''so if I have a new born baby in a baby seat, 650kg is knocked off the towing weight'' - and the answer was ''yes''. Now I can actually see the point in it, even though it sounds ridiculous, because people would maybe hook a trailer say 1300kg on the car and then perhaps load 6 burly passengers - which COULD or WOULD have put the total weight of the car and trailer above what was allowed (gross train weight). Regards |
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May 8th, 2014, 16:34 | #9 |
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Update
Thanks all for your inputs. Much appreciated. Update is:
1. We've asked our and other dealers if/why the Max Tow Weight is different and as Mike IOW said they don't know. Our own dealer didn't even have the right MY2015 brochure, edition 2 of which is here http://www.volvocars.com/uk/Document...-pricelist.pdf 2. We've asked VolvoUK Customer Services (by email, Twitter and Facebook) and so far they've replied by saying speak to your dealer! 3. We've also asked them all what the Gross Train Weight of the MY2015 is so we can calculate if we can be legal or not but so far noone knows 4. We did order a D4 FWD SE Lux Nav last week and we are waiting for a delivery date at which point we've been told we will find out if it is a MY14.5 or MY15 5. The deal is - if it turns out that it is a MY15 and it cannot legally tow our van then the deal if off Ill post another update when I get the delivery date/model spec or if I ever find out the 2015 Max Tow Weight or Gross Train Weight from anybody Tom PS When I say "we" it is my wife who's fallen in love with the XC60 and who is buying the car. I have never bought a new Volvo and if it was me I would not have ordered one and would have bought something else as I cannot believe the incompetence, ignorance and lack of customer service from Volvo or its dealers. There. Got it off my chest! PPS I do have a love for Volvo but its for my old warhorse 1989 740GL 2.0 litre estate. Last edited by TunnylaneTom; May 8th, 2014 at 17:02. |
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I do not think you will get a MY14.5 because they closed orders on the 11th February.
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