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Jul 19th, 2023, 23:54 | #1 |
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2.3 T5 Emissions
Does anyone know why the 2.3 T5 manual emissions (222g/km) would be lower than the Geartronic (240g/km)?
Both are Euro 3 engines, yet the Geartronic is not ULEZ compliant, whereas the manual is. I wondered if I got a conformity certificate from Volvo, would it state the same or that both are 222g/km? If it is the lower value, I can request a change from TFL to make the car ULEZ compliant. |
Jul 20th, 2023, 07:53 | #2 |
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My “best guess” would be because the auto does fewer mpg than a manual, in govt testing or real life, the extra fuel used causes an increase in emissions..seem logical to me..
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In my understanding, all Euro 4 and later petrol cars are ulez compliant - it is down to the Euro rating and not the specific emissions of a individual car. This creates the bluntly stupid situation where a 2006 Euro 4 Rolls Royce 6 litre is compliant but a 2005 Euro 3 Smart FourTwo with a 600cc engine from a lawn mower is not…
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Euro3 vs Euro4 emissions
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Jul 20th, 2023, 09:11 | #5 |
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mines euro 3 I believe and also an auto (non turbo and basic slushbox, not geartronic) and is Ulez compliant
I have no idea why though, based on the mpg principle it definitely should not be my 998cc mini which sips petrol like a posh victorian at a tea party with the queen is non compliant, go figure (although it will be in 5 years when it turns 40) I know, emissions, no CAT etc.. but still Last edited by stuart bowes; Jul 20th, 2023 at 09:14. |
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For petrol ULEZ you only have to meet Euro 4 NOx requirements (max 0.08 g/km). That's it - CO2 is not a factor, neither are the other Euro 4 parameters.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...t-the-standard Check the V5C and/or get the certificate of conformity from Volvo. Don't be deterred by Euro 3 or CO2 emissions - it is only NOx that counts, and if you can evidence <= 0.08g/km then TfL should change it. (There is plenty of discussion about this on other forums, e.g. owners of Euro 2 Porsches successfully gaining ULEZ compliance because the NOx is low enough.)
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I can submit it as a request to TfL as it does not cost anything, and can hope for the best. |
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Oh dear, that's a depressing one. I suppose it's worth a try...
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Jul 20th, 2023, 20:07 | #9 |
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Tell me about it. I have left a deposit on this car and have committed to it now.
Deposit was by Paypal and I could potentially just pull out and claim a refund with Paypal if he does not want to return it, but I do actually want the car. |
Jul 20th, 2023, 20:32 | #10 |
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Southend isn't ULEZ is it ? do you drive up to to within the M25 on a regular basis or something
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