V70 buying help - injectors

[jasper110]

hi,

i'm new to the forum and to volvo's.

i've put a deposit down on a 2005 V70 D5 se that has 59,000 miles on the clock. it seems perfect in every way and i think i've fallen for it.....

however, i have a niggling doubt in the back of my head. internet searches reveal diesel injector problems. this starts with poor engine starting.
the car i have in mind will cut out if i don't apply light pressure to the accelerator pedal whilst turning over. or perhaps i'm not holding the key in start position for long enough before releasing it. either way it's got me worried.
could this injector fault apply to this car? what do people mean when they say 'starting problems'? how can i really tell?

i can't afford to be paying the £1500 or so for new injectors on top of buying the car and there are no other V70's for me to compare against for a long way.

what to do, what to do.....?
many thanks for your help.

[oilburner]

Injector problems only applied to the early D5s. There shouldn't be a problem with a 2005 car. Are you sure you left it long enough for the glow plug light to go out before turning the key?

[jasper110]

left it plenty long enough to heat and it does it when hot. the engine fires straight away, but stops just as quick if no gas applied. good to hear that the injector prob doesn't apply.

[oilburner]

It does sound like there is a problem. It's hard to say without more information, but off the top of my head it could be:

-dodgy injectors or fuel pump (despite not being of the problem age, it could still happen...)
-ecu requires re-programmming or resetting
-poor quality and/or very old fuel
-dodgy sensors

When you get it, try leaving it overnight with the battery off, fill it with some decent fuel like Shell Diesel Extra and see how it goes.

What's the service history like? Is it overdue, has it been done by Volvo?

Even if you do end up replacing injectors (seems unlikely, but...) you won't normally have to replace all of them. On the 2003 cars, it was usually only one or two actual failures, so you're looking at more like £300-600 for a fix.

These kind of faults will all be covered by the dealers mandatory 3 month warranty, so all should be well, unless you're buying privately?

[jasper110]

thanks.
come to think of it, it has been sitting for quite a while but was topped up (a little) with fresh fuel. the service history is mixed dealer/local but up to date.
i'm buying from a dealer (non volvo) and i'm getting 6 months warranty, still don't want to have to use it though, you know how evasive garages can be.

[hwoods]

Hi,

Just refuse to pay the balance until the problem is fixed? this is quite common when buying a car from a dealer / garage (or is it private?)

H

[oilburner]

Yep, I know garages can be a pain to deal with after the money has already changed hands. Still, the warranty is usually provided by a third party, so it may not be too painful to claim.

But Hwoods suggestion is good, given that they haven't had all your money yet!

[jasper110]

Originally Posted by hwoods

Hi,

Just refuse to pay the balance until the problem is fixed? this is quite common when buying a car from a dealer garage (or is it private?)

H

good point. i'm just impatient, something i need to work on.

[hwoods]

I'ts worthwhile taking time over a car when buying from a garage, the garage will normally put things right in order to get the sale (it is obviously cheaper for them to do the repair that joe bloggs of the street). The last car I bought from a car sales was a Volvo from a big car warehouse in Bristol - I took time over the car and made them change the front disks, replace broken interior trim, fix a dodgy bonnet latch and even change the number plates because they we a dodgy looking font.