Replacing the S80, do i dare buy another Volvo?

weble · Nov 30th, 2011, 15:04

OK, so i've investigated my leccy window problem, as suspected it's the more expensive option, the regulator unwell. Bloody things made of chocolate! Very poor Volvo, very poor! Even if i replaced it, i'd be scared to death every time i used the window it will ping again.

Along with a few other things on the car. Im not very impressed with it. Stunning car on the motorway, and economy is spot on for the size! But there is more to a car than it's MPG's!

HOWEVER, i'm with Peter Best Insurance who like Volvo's and Saabs. I will ring them to ask what they would class as "classic". I fear i may be stuck to Volvo's!

Idealy i'd love them to say i could have an Accord, but i doubt that.

Do i go for an older Volvo? Are they better made? Thinking 850 (there is a Diesel Estate for sale down the road with 168k miles on, is that a big high?). Or even S/V/C70? Are they better made than this Chocolate S80? (No Turbo's or Auto's tho)

Your thoughts much apreciated

RUTV70 · Nov 30th, 2011, 15:25

Personally, I wouldn't buy a Volvo any NEWER than my V70..P1 Classic.
When I came back to Volvo I didn't want anything later..I wanted a Volvo Volvo...LOL
I was offered several P2's but I prefer the "brick" shape without the hips..and the "old" 4-speed auto box too.
I would happily buy a 900/850/V70 P1...but that's about it I'm afraid.
I just think the older models are more reliable, have less sophisticated technology..and much easier to repair in general.

Highly personal and subjective view I grant you..but that's where my choice would be.

Neil

weble · Nov 30th, 2011, 15:45

I've found a nice looking 1999 V70 locally at a dealer, who's prepaired to take the S80 as P/X, i'll lose money, but not as much as i'll lose if i keep it and be scared to use it.

It's the 2.4 non turbo manual, which is my engine and gearbox of choice.

I'll drive over tomorrow see if i cant talk a deal

I've spoken to my insurance company i'm pretty much stuck to Volvo's, Merc's, BMW's, Saab's and Rover's. So i guess it's gonna be a Volvo again, but older this time

Moosejaw · Nov 30th, 2011, 16:14

Personally, the newest Volvo I'd have again would be an 850/900 series. Maybe an early S/V70 with a conventional dizzy but nothing with an ETM.

weble · Nov 30th, 2011, 16:29

Good point, what year do the ETM's start being fitted? Would a 1999 V have one?

The Hooded Claw · Nov 30th, 2011, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by weble

Good point, what year do the ETM's start being fitted? Would a 1999 V have one?

It MAY have it may NOT have ... my c70 HAS but its one of the VERY FIRST!!

RUTV70 · Nov 30th, 2011, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by weble

Good point, what year do the ETM's start being fitted? Would a 1999 V have one?

My V70 is a late 1998 "S" registered/1999 model year..and it HAS the ETM.!..must be one of the first I guess.

Neil

Daim · Nov 30th, 2011, 17:22

I've decieded, that my C30 will be my last Volvo. I'm very satisfied. It isn't my first, but it will be - unless something changes - my last.

Next car... YUMMY Dodge Challenger RT/SRT8 in Orange

I don't want another Volvo, due to their German business methods. You have a problem (like cracking seat materials) and Volvo Germanys says "We can't do anything. We only import the cars and don't manufacture them".

ewanc0 · Nov 30th, 2011, 17:34

With my limited knowledge i have to totally agree with everything thats been said already. Stick to early 70's 850 or the 900 (which is even easier to work on)
I've owned all of the above at some stage.
P reg S70 n/a was my first Volvo - lack of the knowledge i have now meant i scrapped it - one of my biggest regrets
L reg 850 Turbo - miss that car so much - but not as refined as the 70's
R reg 940 lpt - bought it as project, really easy to work on with 4 cylinder engine - soooo much room. Dare i say even comfier to drive than the S70
V reg S70 2.5D (Audi engine) swapped the 940 for this for mum. 45 - 50 mpg (ish) and its an Audi engine - should last forever.
No reason why an older one with FSH won't restore your faith

Just to add - i test drove a 2004 V70 D5 couple of months ago - it could have been any newer car, didn't feel special at all

weble · Nov 30th, 2011, 17:40

ETM maybe unavoidable then on a V70. hmm.... well i'll give it a look. As long as the rest of it is bolted together a bit better with less to go wrong.

The one i'm eyeing up has 2 owners, last one since 2002 with Full dealer history.... but then that's exactly the same as my S80

Although it does have 120,000 miles not 144,000 miles like mine

Nov 30th, 2011, 15:04	#1
weble Senior Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2012 13:34 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: .	Replacing the S80, do i dare buy another Volvo? OK, so i've investigated my leccy window problem, as suspected it's the more expensive option, the regulator unwell. Bloody things made of chocolate! Very poor Volvo, very poor! Even if i replaced it, i'd be scared to death every time i used the window it will ping again. Along with a few other things on the car. Im not very impressed with it. Stunning car on the motorway, and economy is spot on for the size! But there is more to a car than it's MPG's! HOWEVER, i'm with Peter Best Insurance who like Volvo's and Saabs. I will ring them to ask what they would class as "classic". I fear i may be stuck to Volvo's! Idealy i'd love them to say i could have an Accord, but i doubt that. Do i go for an older Volvo? Are they better made? Thinking 850 (there is a Diesel Estate for sale down the road with 168k miles on, is that a big high?). Or even S/V/C70? Are they better made than this Chocolate S80? (No Turbo's or Auto's tho) Your thoughts much apreciated Last edited by weble; Nov 30th, 2011 at 15:43.

Nov 30th, 2011, 15:25	#2
RUTV70 RUTRUNNER Last Online: Jan 25th, 2016 11:32 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Oakham View Photos By: RUTV70	Personally, I wouldn't buy a Volvo any NEWER than my V70..P1 Classic. When I came back to Volvo I didn't want anything later..I wanted a Volvo Volvo...LOL I was offered several P2's but I prefer the "brick" shape without the hips..and the "old" 4-speed auto box too. I would happily buy a 900/850/V70 P1...but that's about it I'm afraid. I just think the older models are more reliable, have less sophisticated technology..and much easier to repair in general. Highly personal and subjective view I grant you..but that's where my choice would be. Neil __________________ classic V70 1999MY 20 valve non turbo, auto (adaptive) B5254. ETM/Denso Previous Volvos...264 auto...loved it. 340 manual...not so loved. 760 auto...loved it.

Nov 30th, 2011, 17:22	#8
Daim Brit in Germany Last Online: May 18th, 2024 19:59 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bremen	I've decieded, that my C30 will be my last Volvo. I'm very satisfied. It isn't my first, but it will be - unless something changes - my last. Next car... YUMMY Dodge Challenger RT/SRT8 in Orange I don't want another Volvo, due to their German business methods. You have a problem (like cracking seat materials) and Volvo Germanys says "We can't do anything. We only import the cars and don't manufacture them". __________________ The Best Nation Is Imagination 2010 V70 (Type 135) D5 (D5244T10) Automatic (TF-80SC)

Nov 30th, 2011, 17:34	#9
ewanc0 VOC Member Last Online: Jan 14th, 2024 17:59 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: argyll	With my limited knowledge i have to totally agree with everything thats been said already. Stick to early 70's 850 or the 900 (which is even easier to work on) I've owned all of the above at some stage. P reg S70 n/a was my first Volvo - lack of the knowledge i have now meant i scrapped it - one of my biggest regrets L reg 850 Turbo - miss that car so much - but not as refined as the 70's R reg 940 lpt - bought it as project, really easy to work on with 4 cylinder engine - soooo much room. Dare i say even comfier to drive than the S70 V reg S70 2.5D (Audi engine) swapped the 940 for this for mum. 45 - 50 mpg (ish) and its an Audi engine - should last forever. No reason why an older one with FSH won't restore your faith Just to add - i test drove a 2004 V70 D5 couple of months ago - it could have been any newer car, didn't feel special at all __________________ Previous 97 S70 2.5 Auto, 97 940 Torslanda, 99 S80 2.5D auto, 99 S70 2.5D auto and 94 855 Turbo, 05 S60 D5, 08 C30 2.0D, 98 V70R Saffy Current 04 XC70 Last edited by ewanc0; Nov 30th, 2011 at 17:37.

Nov 30th, 2011, 15:45	#3
weble Senior Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2012 13:34 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: .	I've found a nice looking 1999 V70 locally at a dealer, who's prepaired to take the S80 as P/X, i'll lose money, but not as much as i'll lose if i keep it and be scared to use it. It's the 2.4 non turbo manual, which is my engine and gearbox of choice. I'll drive over tomorrow see if i cant talk a deal I've spoken to my insurance company i'm pretty much stuck to Volvo's, Merc's, BMW's, Saab's and Rover's. So i guess it's gonna be a Volvo again, but older this time

Nov 30th, 2011, 16:14	#4
Moosejaw Premier Member Last Online: Jun 29th, 2012 19:44 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Glasgow	Personally, the newest Volvo I'd have again would be an 850/900 series. Maybe an early S/V70 with a conventional dizzy but nothing with an ETM.

Nov 30th, 2011, 16:29	#5
weble Senior Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2012 13:34 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: .	Good point, what year do the ETM's start being fitted? Would a 1999 V have one?

Nov 30th, 2011, 17:40	#10
weble Senior Member Last Online: Dec 9th, 2012 13:34 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: .	ETM maybe unavoidable then on a V70. hmm.... well i'll give it a look. As long as the rest of it is bolted together a bit better with less to go wrong. The one i'm eyeing up has 2 owners, last one since 2002 with Full dealer history.... but then that's exactly the same as my S80 Although it does have 120,000 miles not 144,000 miles like mine

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