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Old Apr 25th, 2015, 16:15   #21
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I disagree with much of this -

most cars will not go forever (see my 3rd and 4th owner comment, as once they join the multiple ownership club the owners cannot afford the maintenance.
Newer cars, let's say those in the 5-10 year old category will often (in my experience) need much more money spending on them than a cared for older car (say a 700/900 - I'll stay with Volvo for obvious reasons).

Fleet cars (majority of new cars sold in the UK are company cars), when they reach the second owner/used market they'll be defleeted when maintenance is due (dual mass flywheel, maybe DPF issues).

Digital cars are more complex, AND more complexity equals less reliability and therefore less durability.

I have doubts about our V70 lasting until 2023: the 745 is already approaching 30 (in 2016).

Jon.
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

Indeed , I don't know why people think new cars are less trouble than older ones it is simply not the case ! I believe they have that word WARRANTY to reassure them .( talking volvo here , not neglected hanging other makes )New cars have all sorts of problems , clutches lasting 60000 miles or less , and noisy chirping , clutch release bearing/cylinder within the gearbox housing leaking , alternators , driveshaft joints and boots , radiators leaking after 4 years , coolant barely lasting a year , Plastic clutch master cylinders breaking , mysterious network systems causing electrical havok with no fault found which fix themselves and the car carries on , seat upholstery showing signs of wear after 2 years , it must be the Polish cows .. uneven tyre wear , wheel bearings going noisy ,belt tensioners failing , water pump issues , electric window motor connectors overheating and melting , Diesel pumps not machined correctly , so the pump isnt square to the engine resulting in the cam belt running off and wrecking the engine .

These are not all volvo , just some of the faults on new car makes which i am familiar with on a daily basis and can run a list of out of my head .
The main cause of all this is COST . they are trying to save money by cutting costs .. Your V70 from say 2002 would cost over £50000 to make now due to the quality built in to it .. Keep them going , it will cost FAR less than buying new , if you buy new expect to spend a lot more than you do now :-)
I have only ever owned 2 cars in my whole life , both are still owned by me and running fine ... how many cars have you all owned in your life . 15 ? more ?
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