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Clan May 4th, 2021 23:30

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Originally Posted by Laird Scooby (Post 2734347)
Every 340 1.7 i've ever known has had HGF, i did have a 440 1.7 that didn't but the least said about that car the better!

Also the same 1.7 engine was fitted to many Renaults and gained a reputation for HGF on them too.

When i bought new shoes for my 360GLT, they came in a box listing the Mk2 Escort as the main fitment - don't forget Ford liked to fit bigger brakes to some models, especially if they were larger engined versions than the run-of-the-mill stuff.

You mean you actually wore out a set ? :omg_smile:

foggyjames May 4th, 2021 23:33

Honestly never heard of it, and I've known dozens of them. 1.4s, yes, somewhat notorious, but not 1.7s. No idea what that's about then!

Could be - I'm far from sure about the shoes - just never heard of it. One cylinder type (I'm sure it was 340...?) was definitely common to Escorts. Of course there was much more sharing back from the OEM parts bin in the day anyway. The front calipers (after 79?) are the same as certain VWs and Audis, too.

cheers

James

foggyjames May 4th, 2021 23:33

I've worn out 340s shoes owing to the stupid adjuster seizing up (as they seem to with appalling regularity). Not a 360 issue, of course!

cheers

James

Laird Scooby May 4th, 2021 23:37

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Originally Posted by Clan (Post 2734348)
You mean you actually wore out a set ? :omg_smile:

It was how they were when i bought it and yes, they were well and truly worn out! Was touch and go whether the drums needed replacing but i got away with it by the skin of my teeth.

Clan May 5th, 2021 09:32

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Originally Posted by foggyjames (Post 2734349)
Honestly never heard of it, and I've known dozens of them. 1.4s, yes, somewhat notorious, but not 1.7s. No idea what that's about then!

Could be - I'm far from sure about the shoes - just never heard of it. One cylinder type (I'm sure it was 340...?) was definitely common to Escorts. Of course there was much more sharing back from the OEM parts bin in the day anyway. The front calipers (after 79?) are the same as certain VWs and Audis, too.

cheers

James

I came across the odd B14 with headgasket failure , but always caused by overheating for some reason or other . Never in my 45 years working with them on a daily basis had a 1.7 headgasket fail not even on the turbo models . maybe neglected ones overheated too ....

also worn rear shoes was very unusual , the only ones i changed in work were fluid contaminated ...

we have a 1980 340 in the family since new with 250,000 miles and that has it's original rear brakes ,

Also had a 1982 GLT and that had 150,000 miles with original rear brakes ,

as does my present 1988 343 !!

foggyjames May 5th, 2021 11:45

Yes, fair point - my only 'bad' B14 was overheated due to the electric fan not working (and the driver not noticing what the temperature gauge was doing. It cracked the head! I think the bigger issue is that the risk of liner-shift is very significant if you just lift the head straight up, and re-seating them can be a bit hit and miss (I assume unless you're taking the pistons out of the liners, etc).

Maybe it's an age issue, but the 340-style handbrake adjusters seem to seize up very commonly now. They had both seized completely solid (and both at both ends, too - a really comprehensive job!) and worn out the shoes on my 343, and when I mentioned it to friends there was a lot of muttering about "complete pain" and "annual job". Maybe it's a case of incorrect servicing or use of the wrong grease? Even Mac (ex-VCUK in-period) said it was something they were prone to (although he didn't specify whether that was "then" or "now"!). Doesn't seem to affect 360s at all, but of course the design is completely different.

cheers

James


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