Rear seat handle replacement, Torslanda 1992
The plastic handle for releasing the rear seat has broken, all that remains is a bit of plastic which seems unconnected to anything. Someone on Ebay was making them using 3D printing, I ordered one but it never arrived so now I'm trying to source one, but also any information on how to fix it.
Has anyone pictures or diagrams please? I don't really want this to be a garage job, I'd much rather have a go myself if it's not too complicated. |
I did make one once, but a long time ago so can't recall the details.
But the essence is that inside the seat there are two cables which connect to the spring-loaded release clips. You have to contrive a device that will pull both cables at the same time. My device was a bit like the release handle on a garage up-and-over door, consisting of a rotating shaft with two levers at the back - rotating the shaft pulled both cables at the same time from different directions. Sorry, I can't remember any more. You need to peel the seat cover off to get inside the seat to see just how it works. I believe the mechanism gets broken because people don't appreciate exactly what it is doing. When the seat sticks and is reluctant to pull forwards clear of the fastenings, people assume that you need to pull the lever harder to release it. But it doesn't work like that. Pulling the wires doesn't actually pull anything - it simply moves a pair of spring-loaded locking plates out of the way so that the seat is then free to move clear. You need to put more effort into pulling the seat forwards once the clips have been released, rather than simply putting more force on the clips and breaking the fragile plastic handle. |
I believe they’re still available directly from Volvo, so speak to your local dealer. If they’re not particularly helpful, the dealers in Swansea and Tottenham in North London know how to order classic parts and are happy to post parts out.
If you want to integrate a stronger latch, then a latch from an earlier car is all steel and much stronger. I put one into my seat back in about…. 2003 or so, as I had one to hand and was a bit annoyed with the later plastic one having broken again. It’s not a perfect fit as it’s a bit wider and not quite as tall, so I needed to widen the hole in the back of the seat and it doesn’t quite cover the hole in the seat back carpet, but it works well and the slight gap in the carpet doesn’t bother me. Here’s a thread with someone else experiencing the same issue and frustration. With the benefit of hindsight (and as Clifford says above) it may be that the mechanism needed lubrication… but it was some time ago now and I can’t quite remember. Of course having typed all that out, I realise finding an earlier seat latch might be a challenge now given that they’re much more rare… So that’s probably not a viable option any more. In terms of fitting it, it’s not particularly complicated- fiddly, but not complicated and you won’t need any special tools, just needle nose pliers. Release the sounding trim that just clips on, then undo two screws to release the mechanism from the seat back, then pull it forwards to see how the wires clips to the back of it. Release the clips that hold the wires on and you will be able to remove the old mechanism. Then assembly with the new latch is the reverse of disassembly as the Haynes manuals were fond of saying. Cheers |
I think you're right about lubricating the mechanism, not something that occurred to me, especially as I only rarely need to lower the seat. The main problem though seemed to be simple plastic fatigue, the handle had become very brittle and bits began to break off.
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I've just found this - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/294950152...sAAOSw7vhiGfQv I assume it's correct, a bit pricey but complete unit, the newly-made ones look to be just the plastic handle.
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Yep, looks like the correct one. £28 isn’t that bad… at least they’re available!
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How does one access the inside to fit such a new catch handle?
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My recollection is that you have to remove the fabric cover, which I think peels back from the bottom after releasing clips or staples, and then the metal frame of the seat is revealed.
It wasn't in principle difficult - just a matter of probing around and working it out as you go along :) Somewhere here there must be an expert who can remember what he did. |
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Pop the rectangular trim off the outside off the latch with a flat bladed screwdriver Undo the two Philips headed screw you can now see Pull the latch gently towards you out of the backseat- it’s still connected to the cables Note how the cables go on and release the metal clips holding them with needle nose pliers Remove the cables Remove old latch completely. Hold the new latch in about the right place, Attach cables Replace metal clips Screw back into position Replace surrounding trim. Cup of tea. |
Cheers Bugjam , step by step info!👍🍺
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This is what it looks like, to release insert a flat bladed screwdriver behind the trim halfway way down the left side and turn it until the clips release, then do the same on the right side.
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Well I succeeded! It's generally as explained by Bugjam 1999, though I met one or two snags along the way. Firstly it's a task much more easily undertaken with the seat lying flat, oh the irony! I suppose it might be possible to release each side with a screwdriverr or something but I have neither the strength nor the courage to do that, I didn't want to risk causing damage.
Firstly I managed to completely destroy the plastic trim, so will need to source a new one, if anyone knows where I can get one please let me know. The clips need to be pushed up, not in - I didn't register that from the picture, just assumed! The screws holding the actual handle are slightly concealed behind the carpeting but it was possible to hold the fabric far enough to access the screws, which are small enough to be easily lost! On my car the heads aren't philips but the multi-sided type (torx or somesuch?) That was the easy bit, working the latch out from behind the frame was fiddly. I tried releasing the lower part first but then couldn't bring the thing down far enough to release the top. I managed eventually, can't recall quite how, but it is possible, be assured. There was plenty of slack in the cables, and again on my car there's a white plastic bracket which holds the cables in place, very reassuring (I think it was that, and the pegs it fixes to which prevented the latch from sliding downwards). The little clip Bugjam referred too was tricky, it's a sort-of washer but one designed not to slide off! I could I suppose have simply cut off the plastic and worked the clip the other way, in retrospect I wish I had. Eventually after being 'persuaded' with some choice words it submitted. After that it was a matter of pulling a little on the wire to loop it over the new handle, replace the clip and push the white bracket back onto its pegs, not difficult, and work the assembly back behind the frame. I'm sorry I didn't stop to take pictures, which would have helped, but I was up against time. Any blood-stains are concealed - there are some sharp edges! I had an additional handicap as the dog/luggage guard was a bit of an obstruction, and I never have been able to source new plastic clips which hold it up to the roof. Also I nearly lost one of the screws behind the carpeting, which would have been a nuisance! Fortunately the screwdriver is magnetic. All in all a straightforward job especially for someone younger, not quite so for a re-hipped septuagenarian old biddy. I did eventually decide to use a cushion to kneel on! Thanks Bugjam, without your information I would have been really struggling. |
Thanks Angie! 😘
Top chap Bugjam!👍 |
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