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Stunning 240 estate
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Stunning volvo 240 estate, only one previous owner with full service history. Manual 4 speed, 2 keys, mot january 2022. heated front seats, power steering, central looking. Everything works as it should, recently had new timing belt, full service including new exhaust, suspension, battery and headlights!! all invoices and paperwork. Ive owned this car since 2004 and as did the previous owner given it whatever it’s wanted no matter the cost! A real genuine classic rust free Volvo! Probably one of the best available on the uk roads. First to see will buy,
£8995ono Serious offers considered ** please note, number plate not included** Car is located in Hertfordshire, happy to answer any questions you may have. Thanks |
I’m not being facetious, but I wondered whether the asking price was a misprint, and should have said £3,995 rather than £8,995?
I’m sure you are very proud of your motor car, but 9 grand would be pretty strong money for a 32 year old, 130,000 mile 240 (as would 4 grand really), Good fortune with the sale, and welcome to the forum. Alan |
Firstly, welcome aboard!
Secondly, my knowledge of the 240 isn't that great but there are a few things that someone considering spending £9k on a car will pick up on. First, the wheels are the wrong colour! Second, headlight wipers missing, third the paint is faded on at least the drivers door and fourth, if you had vacuumed it out to present the carpets/mats as clean, it would give a better impression. You may think i'm being picky here and to an extent i am but if the car was up for £895, i probably wouldn't have mentioned anything. At £8995, people want a perfect car in every way and will be a lot more picky to find the right one. Better to hear it in what i hope was a constructive way from someone like me that wants to wish you well for the sale than a potential buyer looking for points they can use to negotaite the price down. You may get your £9k but you will have to wait and i'd strongly suggest addressing those points i made at least, alternatively perhaps consider a lower (more realistic) price. Whichever path you choose, good luck with it! |
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Hello, Thank you for your comments! However, I do have the headlight wipers they was removed to fit the new headlights and I never got round to putting them back on. Secondly, the paint is original and so yes it does need a good polish now and then and it does come up great! As you can see from the pictures the rear seats are down and it was storing a set of seats for my other car. They have now been taken out the car and I am going to upload some new pics as these was just taken to show the car that was advertised! Thirdly, the wheels I had painted black as they are easier to keep clean plus IMO I think they suit the car better!! Fourthly, When I have the time I will give the car a full valet and polish inside and out showing just how clean and straight this car is! And lastly, from the wrecks Ive seen for sale over the last 6 months which were priced between 3-6k that had double the millage, 6+ owners and riddled in rust this I’m comparison is far from! The price is negotiable like everything! And being that I’ve owned it for the last 17 years I’m certainly in no rush to let it go!! Not only that but for those who seem to be worried about how the sale is going, I’ve been approached by a chap in the US who is very interested! He’s actually had shipping companies contact me to see how flexible I am to arrange a time if collected. And one more thing I’d like to point out is…. it was insured on classic car insurance with an agreed value of £11000. So for those who want to make any remarks or comments I suggest you keep them to yourself as the bottom line is you don’t have a 240 in this condition and never will have because you probably can’t afford one! GOOD DAY! |
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However you can't describe a car as "Stunning" when it clearly isn't. :nah: Good luck with the US connection, i suspect you will need it! Why would someone want to spend thousands of bucks importing a car several thousand miles and then having it converted to LHD when all they need to do is go to California, or a similar state with deserts and pick one up in as good condition, if not better for less money? Seriously, ask yourself that! Lastly, i'm not going to get into a willy-waving competition about agreed values, simply point out you've posted on a Volvo forum where almost all of us own Volvos of one form or another. I wouldn't want another 240, not my cup of tea to be honest. I'm glad you're in no hurry to sell it, the price will put most people off to start with and your attitude will put the rest off. |
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BED991 VOLVO 240
Check another vehicle Colour Red Fuel type Petrol Date registered 21 June 1989 MOT valid until 25 January 2022 Get an MOT reminderwhen the vehicle's MOT is near its time for renewal. (Opens in a new Window) by email or text. If you think the MOT expiry date or any of the vehicle details are wrong, contact DVSA. Check mileage recorded at test, MOT expiry date, defects and advisories, and view test certificate Date tested 11 January 2021 Pass View test certificate Mileage 129,907 miles MOT test number 6148 9607 3501 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2022 Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories): Nearside Front Anti-roll bar linkage pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i)) Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i)) Nearside Front Wheel bearing has slight play (5.1.3 (a) (i)) What are advisories? Date tested 24 January 2020 Pass View test certificate Mileage 129,907 miles MOT test number 5146 3690 7155 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2021 Date tested 24 January 2019 Pass View test certificate Mileage 129,247 miles MOT test number 7689 1053 7637 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2020 Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories): Nearside Rear Suspension component mounting prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive (5.3.6 (a) (i)) Nearside Front Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i)) What are advisories? The MOT test changed on 20 May 2018 Defects are now categorised according to their severity – dangerous, major, and minor. Find out more Date tested 3 January 2018 Pass Mileage 128,962 miles MOT test number 6376 9871 0373 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2019 Date tested 23 January 2017 Pass Mileage 128,568 miles MOT test number 1302 6121 5775 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2018 Date tested 26 January 2016 Pass Mileage 127,511 miles MOT test number 7044 9809 0489 Test location View test location Expiry date 25 January 2017 Advisory notice item(s) n/s and o/s headlamp reflectors are deteriorating. advise n/s and/s rear passenger seats removed at time of re-test. What are advisories? Date tested 19 January 2016 Fail Mileage 127,462 miles MOT test number 8401 6436 6611 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Nearside Rear Passenger's seat cannot be secured in the upright position. (6.2.A.2) Offside Rear Passenger's seat cannot be secured in the upright position. (6.2.A.2) Advisory notice item(s) n/s and o/s headlamp reflectors are deteriorating. What are failures and advisories? Date tested 16 January 2015 Pass Mileage 126,277 miles MOT test number 3673 0601 5069 Test location View test location Expiry date 20 January 2016 Advisory notice item(s) both headlamp,leses are deteriorating. What are advisories? Date tested 8 January 2015 Fail Mileage 126,272 miles MOT test number 1776 6840 5433 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Rear Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2) Offside Front Lower Suspension arm has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2) Advisory notice item(s) both headlamp,leses are deteriorating. What are failures and advisories? Date tested 3 January 2014 Pass Mileage 123,608 miles MOT test number 2265 2330 4018 Test location View test location Expiry date 20 January 2015 Advisory notice item(s) advise o/s and n/s headlamp reflectors are deteriorating What are advisories? Date tested 8 January 2013 Pass Mileage 118,317 miles MOT test number 2680 6820 3074 Test location View test location Expiry date 20 January 2014 Date tested 3 January 2013 Fail Mileage 118,259 miles MOT test number 9091 6350 3024 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Offside Rear Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) What are failures? Date tested 19 January 2012 Pass Mileage 116,445 miles MOT test number 3067 3961 2043 Test location View test location Expiry date 20 January 2013 Advisory notice item(s) offside rear tyre on legal limit What are advisories? Date tested 21 January 2011 Pass Mileage 112,234 miles MOT test number 7079 3112 1029 Test location View test location Expiry date 20 January 2012 Date tested 17 January 2011 Fail Mileage 112,234 miles MOT test number 5064 0701 1084 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has excessive play (2.2.B.1f) Dangerous Advisory notice item(s) offside outer chassis outrigger corroded. offside headlamp glass holed nearside rearsill corroded What are failures and advisories? Date tested 19 January 2010 Pass Mileage 108,098 miles MOT test number 9226 4951 0028 Test location View test location Expiry date 18 January 2011 Date tested 14 January 2010 Fail Mileage 108,040 miles MOT test number 6200 9431 0090 Test location View test location Reason(s) for failure Exhaust has a major leak of exhaust gases (7.1.2) Nearside Rear Stop lamp not working (1.2.1b) Advisory notice item(s) Offside Front Track rod end ball joint has slight play (2.2.B.1f) What are failures and advisories? Date tested 6 January 2009 Pass Mileage 102,368 miles MOT test number 2011 7630 9070 Test location View test location Expiry date 7 January 2010 Advisory notice item(s) Exhaust has part of the system slightly deteriorated (7.1.1a) clutch slave cylinder leak What are advisories? Date tested 8 January 2008 Pass Mileage 99,182 miles MOT test number 9602 7870 8030 Test location View test location Expiry date 7 January 2009 Date tested 3 January 2007 Pass Mileage 96,523 miles MOT test number 4511 3330 7072 Test location View test location Expiry date 2 January 2008 Advisory notice item(s) Offside Front Seat belt damaged but not affecting the operation of the belt (5.2.2a) Offside Rear Seat belt damaged but not affecting the operation of the belt (5.2.2a) Rear axle noisey when rear wheels spun What are advisories? Date tested 30 November 2005 Pass Mileage 92,630 miles MOT test number 3403 5463 5384 Test location View test location Expiry date 30 November 2006 Hardly been looked after properly has it??? :thinking: Many advisory items ignored until they have subsequently failed and the speedo/odometer is dead because it's not recording mileage any more. Also the word you're looking for is principle, NOT principal. 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I tell you what DAVE! Come hear and I’ll show you anger management! If you read the advert everything has been done! You f••king pathetic C•NT. I’m gonnnamake sure I attend all meetings hoping to run into you. |
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The use of dots notwithstanding, your personal attack upon him is uncalled for, unacceptable and offensive in the extreme. It will therefore come as no surprise to you that it has been reported for Moderator attention. John. |
I feel a bit for the OP.
If you want to buy the car that’s fair enough but if you’re just ****ting on someone’s advert to pass the time of day that makes you a bit of a ****. IMO of course. |
Laird... Am I right in saying you have a Rover
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Am I right you own a rover sterling. I may have the chance to buy one. Advice appreciated Hutch |
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And my two pennth is simple. When the word "stunning" is used, one expects it to be just that. Sadly, while it appears solid and fairly presentable there are too many faults and flaws to make the use of that word legitimate by a long stretch. stunning /ˈstʌnɪŋ/g adjective extremely impressive or attractive. Speaks for itself. |
It's certainly not original. A 1989 model with a B230K engine (as evinced by the mass of plumbing looping over the cam-box cover) shoud have a 5-speed manual gearbox.
Methinks someone is pulling a fast one. However, the new owner may surface on the forum and enlighten us all. |
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I have a sneaking suspicion the American buyer of the OP's motor car will turn out to be a phantom only visible to Rikvdub, so perhaps BED991 will show up a few more times yet. |
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-240...-127635-2958-0 Ho hum, it looks like the motor car wasn’t exported to the USA after all, and languishes in Hertfordshire. :-) PS. I’ll report back at the end of the auction to let you know whether the motor car gets any bids over the £3,500 starting price. |
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The plot thickens.:eek: |
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We can enjoy a bit of a gloat though: ‘we was right!’ Alan |
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No,no don’t mock the afflicted!:rolleyes: |
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Just gloat. |
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I noticed the personal registration plate (BED991) has been transferred from the Volvo 240 and is now associated with an Audi TT. I also note the seller has carefully covered the Volvo's new registration plate - could that be to disassociate it from the dodgy MoT history Dave uncovered previously?
Surely not :-) PS. I wonder if there is an icon for 'gloating'? |
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I notice the current eBay ad says the motor car is a 4 speed manual, but as Alf says, a 1989 MY motor car should have had a 5 speeder fitted (from memory that change was from the 1984 MY). I also note from the eBay photos that the headlamp wipers are missing - something Dave noticed some months ago. Back in August the seller claimed they had been removed to fit new headlamps but came with the motor car. This all all too much for a coincidence: I'm certain this is the same motor car being advertised on eBay as the one being hawked here on the forum (at £9,000) back in August. I remember querying the price at the time. I'm pretty sure it is the same seller as well because the rubric is very similar in both cases. The only changes have been the deletion of the private number plate and a reduction from £9,000 to a starting price of £3,500 - and perhaps some swallowed pride on the part of the seller. I'm wondering whether this motor car will get any bids at £3,500 during the winter holiday week (the auction ends on New Year's day). It is a cooking DL with a few bits missing, not original, only a 4 speeder, not particularly low mileage and otherwise unremarkable in every way. The seller might have done better to start the auction at a lower price and maybe bidding would have then got to 3 grand. We'll see. :-) |
The mass of plumbing Alf refers to looks suspiciously like a Pulse-Air system - a weird device that squirts air into the exhaust manifold to make the emissions seem cleaner than they really are.
The 4-speed box is also a puzzle. I know back in 88/89 i occasionally used a 240DL estate (83/84 A reg) and that had a 5-speed box as standard. Doesn't make sense for a 5 year newer car to only have a 4-speed as standard unless someone killed the 5-speeder (or used it in another car) and just fitted a 4-speed to keep this one mobile. Too many things don't ring true on this car. :nah: |
It’s very difficult to come on and criticise someone’s listing. I know enough about LS (never met him) to know that he will have meant all this with the best of intentions.
To be fair tot the OP advertising this at 9k is very very understandable. Type 960 classic car into google and a 960 with 70,000 miles in presentable (not good) condition returns in Hampshire at £11,000. There is a host of other 960 on there and I can tell you most of them have been on since I started looking around in March 2020. The green K ref at £6,750 really does appear to be the real deal and I think in reality if advertised at £6,750 in March 20 and accepting an offer may have moved. But it was advertised at £8k! I am seeing 728i in good condition at £7,000, P38 range rovers at astronomical prices and 960s at £8-11k. But what the public don’t understand is that I have watched them from March 2020!!! Then a 728i goes up for £3,500 and it’s gone a week later. All we have now are sites like EBay, auto trader and Cars and classics with 728s, P38 and 960s all at £8,000 plus so I totally understand people pricing their vehicles like that however they need to understand that you may have to wait 18months to sell it (and in liklyhood it won’t go). It’s a pretty distorted market out there at the moment and pretty hard. |
Also noticeable that cars are more expensive down south, and always have been.
Bournemouth/Poole motors typically more expensive than Portsmouth, with Southampton somewhere in the middle. It's been that way as long as I've been buying cars (late 80s onwards). You only start to get bargains way out west or from Birmingham north. We're currently looking for an EV and they're getting on for 20% cheaper north of the border - of course then there's the issue of getting it back home with a 70 mile motorway range! That's an awful lot of Costa and MaccyD breaks :) |
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Portsmouth on the other hand tends to be a bit more transparent with cars although there are less than scrupulous dealers there too. Given the historical connection to London (many housing estates were built to cope with London overspill) many rogue cars come from London with low mileage (because you can't do many miles a year crawling along at 8mph in a perpetual traffic jam!) and again are "punted out" to the trade. They are then sold to the public with a limited warranty because the traders know (or at least suspect) they will have problems. Southampton is a mix of the two with a few of its own "intricacies" shall we say. I'm sure Alan you know all of this living where you do, this was more for the benefit of those on here that haven't "enjoyed" living in that area. You're spot-on about cars north of the border being cheaper. About 5 years ago a friend of mine wanted a Lexus LS430. He lived in Cambridge (still does as far as i know) and most local cars to him (when i say local i mean anything up to about 100 miles radius) were in the region of £3-3.5k for the one he wanted. Including bus, train, taxi and air fares to Glasgow and the fuel home (at an average of 36mpg! :err: ) to Cambridge, the one he bought from just outside Glasgow came in at less than £2k - he sold it a couple of years later for about £2.5k if memory serves and that was with a badly dented fron wing after going green-laning with his brothers! His brothers were in Land-Rovers and he decided the Lexus on high suspension setting was good enough to follow. The dry stone wall that jumped out and hit his front wing thought otherwise though! Had it not had the body damage (or if he'd fixed it and kept quiet) he would easily have got £3k+ for it locally. As for buying an EV from Scotland and driving home, do they really only have a 70 mile motorway range? :err: :thinking: I'd guess you'd spend more on Costa, Maccy-Ds, Burger King, Starbucks etc on the way back than you'd save, that's assuming the battery is in good enough condition to give the full range and that the chargers were working and available at each service stop. Then there's the time factor. I don't know how long it would need to charge to get the next 70 miles but i used to reckon on Glasgow (or Edinburgh) being ~400 miles to Cadnam and that used to take me 10-12 hours near enough non-stop (except for "Comfort breaks" and a bit of a feed at some point) if the roads were ok. With a 70 mile range, that means at least 5 charging breaks, even if each is only an hour that makes it 15-17 hours, if it charges longer then obviously that increases. No idea on charging cost but you can bet your life motorway service station charging points will charge (monetarily) at a premium so add that on to overpriced coffee and food every hour or so and suddenly it's a lot cheaper (and less stressful) to run a V12 Jag for the same journey and only have sensible stops. Maybe a V12 Jag is an exaggeration but you get the idea. Of course, if the range is more sensible like 170 miles it blows my calculations out of the water but probably not by much. It's nearly 3 hours travel time so would be more in line with a sensible break time that you'd be wise to take if driving a "normal" car. Each to their own and all that but maybe it would be more cost effective to buy a BEV from the midlands or slightly north or even from the deepest depths of Cornwall - again these places are historically cheaper than the south of England but i think the savings would once again be marginal. |
I passed on a really cheap Nissan Leaf for just this reason Dave. Went for about £2k less than it would down here but it was in proper Scotland (north of Inverness) so about 600 miles away! Realistically on an 8yo EV you're going to get about 70 miles per charge in winter on a motorway run. The EVs of that era are little more than city cars - and they're limited to 83mph.
Of course the sensible thing to do would have been to get someone inspect it on my behalf and then get it trailered but even that would have been around £500 all in, eroding the savings somewhat. A few years back I could fly Southampton to Inverness for something like £40 return (Flybe). Did a few whisky/foodie tours that way, even considered moving there whilst still working down south. I know a few who did twice weekly commutes on that route - cheaper than the train to London |
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I’d be very very cautious if you are contacted by a prospective buyer claiming they are willing to pay close to asking price and want to ship it. I don’t have enough info to make a judgment in this instance but I’ve seen it before and they usually claim the buyer is working away but they have an agent or a shipper will deal on his/ her behalf and promise to even pay more than asking price etc. For fun I once entertained a nice such Nigerian fella with various emails back and forth to waste his time as much as I possibly could. |
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Whenever I've advertised a motorcycle I've had an obvious spoof email offering to pay the full price... you know the rest. Now I'm wondering whether the seller in this case actually fell for the con trick back in August, is now not only out of pocket for the shipping fees but has also realised his motor car is worth nowhere near the £9 grand he was asking then? In that case he may be trying desperately to cut his losses with a no-reserve auction starting at £3,500. All of a sudden I feel a bit sorry for the seller (but then I remember how rude he was to Dave back in August). This is an interesting twist. I'm not sure the motor car is even going to get an opening bid, so we may well see if for sale a few more times. Alan |
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In my recent experience I see lots of Volvo 240 motor cars advertised at high prices, or with high starting prices or reserves that just do not sell. They get advertised again and again and each time lose a little credibility. Here is a good example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304278261...53.m1438.l2649 ... it is a nice enough motor car, near the top of the good cars on private sale and so probably worth £4,500 of most people's money. This is the fourth time through the eBay mill on a couple of months, the first time it reached £5,100, the second £5,700, third £6,100 (on 15 Dec) - now it is at £4,700. At each auction the motor car fails to reach its reserve price in spite of some obvious shill bidding. The point is sellers may ask any price they like, but if it is well above the market value then it won't sell. I rather suspect this has happened with Rikvdub's motor car, it was never worth £9,000, and may well not be worth £3,500 - the market will decide. Best wishes for a happy and prosperous 2022. Alan |
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Didn't Volvo get rid of the DL model designation before 1989, or have I misremembered that? I agree, there is something not quite right about this motor car. Alan |
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