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Prufrock Jun 5th, 2015 17:14

For sale.
 
My 2003 V70 has been on loan to my Wife's parents for some time, and it has had fitted an electric crane/winch in order that an electric scooter can be lifted into the cargo space.

The winch has hardly been used (fitted about 6 months ago) and because of a recent bereavement is no longer needed. We like to sell it for circa £300 (it was about £1000 new), the scooter is also available (nearly new too).

I do not know the makes of the winch/scooter but can advise if any interest (can supply pics but the car is not with me at the moment: it is in Sussex).

Thank you for looking.

Jon
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

Prufrock Jun 19th, 2015 07:32

Window shoppers?
 
Never could figure our why so many people would view a post and not reply, or is it simply because they've nothing better to do than to view a post that's of no interest to them?

A clue about the content is in the title, I never view a post unless the title is relevant to my needs (if I were disabled this one would be), or of interest (Lounge, or the general motoring sub forums).

Jon.

Mike 700 Jun 19th, 2015 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1933554)
Never could figure our why so many people would view a post and not reply, or is it simply because they've nothing better to do than to view a post that's of no interest to them?

A clue about the content is in the title, I never view a post unless the title is relevant to my needs (if I were disabled this one would be), or of interest (Lounge, or the general motoring sub forums).

Jon.

I looked because I am disabled, and look at all of the posts in this section, but didn't reply to your post, because I am not in the market for the items you have to offer, at the moment - maybe next time?

strbryan Jun 19th, 2015 19:55

I was looking for the handbag at dawn section, I ended up here which seems to be the dummy spitting section..My search will continue..

cheshired5 Jun 19th, 2015 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1933554)
A clue about the content is in the title

No it isn't. There could have been any number of mobility related items on offer but the title is about as non specific as you can get.

Stop being such a grump.

That's my job. :thumbs_up:

Prufrock Jun 20th, 2015 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshired5 (Post 1933937)
No it isn't. There could have been any number of mobility related items on offer but the title is about as non specific as you can get.

Stop being such a grump.

That's my job. :thumbs_up:

If you read the content you'd understand, if you're not disabled or have a need for disabled items why are you here in this sub forum - to make trouble (and you call me a grump) ?

I am the least grumpy person you'll never meet.

Jon.

Prufrock Jun 20th, 2015 07:16

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Originally Posted by Mike 700 (Post 1933877)
I looked because I am disabled, and look at all of the posts in this section, but didn't reply to your post, because I am not in the market for the items you have to offer, at the moment - maybe next time?

No next time Mike 700, I only had one disabled relative and he's now passed away, hence the comment about being recently bereaved.


Jon.

JamesV70R Jun 20th, 2015 09:51

The view counter doesn't work the way you think it does. That isn't 300+ unique views by individual registered users. Its 300+ views, including multiples, by both registered and unregistered users, guests, search bots, etc.

Your title could be a bit less ambiguous, many people are probably looking as this is the most recently bumped thread and all it shows is "for sale". It could be anything.


James

cheshired5 Jun 20th, 2015 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1934090)
If you read the content you'd understand, if you're not disabled or have a need for disabled items why are you here in this sub forum

To read the content, I and others have to view the thread in the first place!
If your title said "Winch and Mobility Scooter For Sale", I may not have clicked on because I don't know anyone with that specific need right now but I may have looked anyway for information. Some of my best finds on this forum come from finding info or stuff for sale when I wasn't particularly looking for it.
I'm not disabled and I don't need disability items but I know people that do.

Mike 700 Jun 20th, 2015 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1934092)
No next time Mike 700, I only had one disabled relative and he's now passed away, hence the comment about being recently bereaved.


Jon.

If you have sold the hoist for the £300 quoted , then I think that you have probably done well?

Looking at fleabay and other's , most used models are being sold for less, irrespectiive of make etc?

I looked at a £1000 plus version for a weight limit of 150 lbs. and fully transferable , and if fitted to a new car before the car is registered, it went down to £300, 'cause of vat saving on the car- this is my way forward when I finally make up my mind on a new car.

Quote:
VAT Free Vehicles

It is possible to purchase a new vehicle at zero rated VAT if the vehicle is fitted with an adaptation prior to it being registered to yourself.

For a vehicle to be sold VAT free the following conditions apply;

1)***** The vehicle must be substantially and permanently adapted.

2)***** The disabled person must use a wheelchair in order to be mobile(a person with a degenerative condition who only uses a wheelchair when the condition requires it also qualifies as a wheelchair user).



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Alison_G Jun 28th, 2015 11:31

Well I just looked as I'm looking for a Volvo to buy. I wouldn't of wasted my time if the title had been less ambiguous :/

Prufrock Jun 29th, 2015 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alison_G (Post 1938342)
Well I just looked as I'm looking for a Volvo to buy. I wouldn't of wasted my time if the title had been less ambiguous :/

Cars for sale are in the relevant model forums not here.

Jon.

kevvydude Jun 29th, 2015 08:50

well i looked on here ,because my m8 had both of his legs removed a few month ago, and was looking for the same sort of lift . so i can get him abt, but it wouldnt fit ,now reading this thread, cant get over the way this site has gone, every day someone is getting the hump with someone, anyway gutted it dont fit, good luck with your sale, regards

Considered1 Jun 29th, 2015 09:13

My father is looking at buying a new self loading scooter which seems very expensive hence viewing this thread. Don't forget the post count increases every time you (including the original OP) revisits the page.
Good luck

Prufrock Jun 29th, 2015 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Considered1 (Post 1938867)
My father is looking at buying a new self loading scooter which seems very expensive hence viewing this thread. Don't forget the post count increases every time you (including the original OP) revisits the page.
Good luck

I am aware of how the post count system works.

Furthermore I fail to understand your comment"self loading scooter", no scooter self loads, you'll need a winch (with ramps) or a crane, and of course the scooter.

Plus you fail to add what car you are trying to put the scooter in.

Jon.

Prufrock Jun 29th, 2015 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevvydude (Post 1938851)
well i looked on here ,because my m8 had both of his legs removed a few month ago, and was looking for the same sort of lift . so i can get him abt, but it wouldnt fit ,now reading this thread, cant get over the way this site has gone, every day someone is getting the hump with someone, anyway gutted it dont fit, good luck with your sale, regards

I take your point, I only posted here as I thought it might help save folk some money (as my items are as new, hardly used), and will save someone quite a bit of money.

Unfortunately I haven't been to Sussex since the bereavement (I note no comment about that - hard nose bunch eh?) and hence no details (or photos) of the items - but I think I implied this in my original post.

Jon.

N.B I can tell you the crane (as it like a miniature crane) fits nicely in the back of the V70P2 (it'll fit in any Volvo estate from the 700 to current V70s).

Mike 700 Jun 29th, 2015 13:59

The Quingo Flyte is a scooter that is almost self loading - all explained on the website, but is quite expensive.

One disabled person can load & unload with ease, and it may be available on hire via Motability - I haven't checked yet!

Prufrock Jun 29th, 2015 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike 700 (Post 1938999)
The Quingo Flyte is a scooter that is almost self loading - all explained on the website, but is quite expensive.

One disabled person can load & unload with ease, and it may be available on hire via Motability - I haven't checked yet!

What is it with you people?

I am familiar with the Quingo product, saw them all at the Mobility Roadshow.

Jon.

Mike 700 Jun 29th, 2015 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1939009)
What is it with you people?

I am familiar with the Quingo product, saw them all at the Mobility Roadshow.

Jon.

'you people' - Prufrock, you have responded to almost every post in an inappropriate manner and now you insult the disabled, by calling us 'you people'.

I was simply posting information , without comment on anyone's post.

Better that you keep away from this section i think!

baggy798 Jun 29th, 2015 16:06

Always a pleasure reading Prufrock's posts, always guaranteed a laugh...http://s12.postimg.org/3l4v1311l/rofl2.gif

Prufrock Jun 29th, 2015 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike 700 (Post 1939015)
'you people' - Prufrock, you have responded to almost every post in an inappropriate manner and now you insult the disabled, by calling us 'you people'.

I was simply posting information , without comment on anyone's post.

Better that you keep away from this section i think!

I am not insulting the disabled, I'm referring to the trolls that insist on posting here on this thread when they have no reason to be.

Jon.

A section of this post was removed due to language used, as we are trying to keep this forum clean. Regards Moderators

volvorocks Jun 29th, 2015 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1939131)
I am not insulting the disabled, I'm referring to the trolls that insist on posting here on this thread when they have no reason to be.

Jon.

I will step in for Mike700 here,and not that I have any reason to post here bar finding your comments offensive, and not that Mike700 needs help, but honestly to call Mike700 a "*****'' is not really very nice. Many think Mike700 has twice the brains you have. Perhaps you would be so nice as to apologise?

Regards

volvorocks Jun 30th, 2015 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alison_G (Post 1938342)
Well I just looked as I'm looking for a Volvo to buy. I wouldn't of wasted my time if the title had been less ambiguous :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1938845)
Cars for sale are in the relevant model forums not here.

Jon.

Quite an incorrect assumption Pru

Disabled people do own cars, disabled people do drive cars, disabled people do sell cars, you know?

A disabled person selling a Volvo car or a member selling a disabled persons car on their behalf may quite well advertise it in the Disabled section. Hence why people look - disabled or not.

I would imagine many car owners have indeed purchased a disabled adapted car, when they were not disabled.

Regards

Mike 700 Jul 2nd, 2015 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by volvorocks (Post 1939328)
I will step in for Mike700 here,and not that I have any reason to post here bar finding your comments offensive, and not that Mike700 needs help, but honestly to call Mike700 a ''half wit'' is not really very nice. Many think Mike700 has twice the brains you have. Perhaps you would be so nice as to apologise?

Regards


Hi Phil, greetings from Copenhagen, and thanks.

Your know your disabled when your opinion mean less than others & they really do think of you as inferior, even though they know absolutely nothing about you or your disability, for example, you may have a good standard of education, a good degree , perhaps even qualified in other fields, like the law or medicine, or like an instructor rating, for full instrument (multi engine jet ) or anything else of note, perhaps having had to forgo a chosen career because of disability, but to them your just a 'gimp'!

These are the sort that give you disapproving stares, tuts, comments, shouts etc. just as you pull up into a disabled parking bay, which is closer to the store than their parking spot - poor things ( i'd swop my disabled bay for being able to walk properly again any day )

The irony is that they think that they are in some way superior to you, but viewed by normal, fair minded people , they are in fact inferior in both thought & deed.

Top tip is not to get annoyed & have the last laugh, be strong, be calm, (belittle if you can possibly do it without them even noticing ) but best of all ignore them - they hate that.


Regards.

Considered1 Jul 2nd, 2015 10:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1938899)
I am aware of how the post count system works.

Furthermore I fail to understand your comment"self loading scooter", no scooter self loads, you'll need a winch (with ramps) or a crane, and of course the scooter.

Plus you fail to add what car you are trying to put the scooter in.

Jon.

yes it was the Quingo Flyte he was looking at
I didnt mention the car is its nothing to do with you or this thread
I wont be posting on this thread again, hope you sort out your issues!

Spitfire4 Jul 5th, 2015 08:52

Hi Mike

Agree with you, wife is disabled and often wants to go home when we've been out not for long because people look down their noses at her, as if she shouldn't be there, I keep telling her don't let them win you've just as much right to go out as they have.

Obviously the media doesn't help with all these "benefit" programs portraying the disabled as scroungers, she worked over 35 years till an injury in the 80s reared its ugly head, specialist was amazed she kept going for as long as she did, but it won!

Take care
Mick

volvorocks Jul 5th, 2015 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire4 (Post 1941880)
Hi Mike

Agree with you, wife is disabled and often wants to go home when we've been out not for long because people look down their noses at her, as if she shouldn't be there, I keep telling her don't let them win you've just as much right to go out as they have.

Take care
Mick

Hi Mick

I can relate to you here, as my mother was exactly the same. She enjoyed going out although some other peoples attitudes gave rise to her deciding she wanted to go back home. A very annoying thing was when people would ask me what she wanted, although being fair and reasonable, this was more so the fact a lot of people are unsure as to how to approach a person with a disability. It is they that feel uncomfortable. As you say though others just saw her as an 'inconvenience'. Very sad really. Further the amount of people that took it upon themselves to wheel her out of the way when she was shopping, just so they could get to the shelf in front of her, was unbelievable. I would always challenge these ignorant people, although that initself also upset my mother as she felt she was the cause, and felt she should not be there.

Regards

Mike 700 Jul 6th, 2015 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire4 (Post 1941880)
Hi Mike

Agree with you, wife is disabled and often wants to go home when we've been out not for long because people look down their noses at her, as if she shouldn't be there, I keep telling her don't let them win you've just as much right to go out as they have.

Obviously the media doesn't help with all these "benefit" programs portraying the disabled as scroungers, she worked over 35 years till an injury in the 80s reared its ugly head, specialist was amazed she kept going for as long as she did, but it won!

Take care
Mick

You know what Spit, I haven't been around much lately but I have just opened up the Forum, & 'nothing much has changed'!

The 'Lounge' is still full of argument, some friendly ( long may this continue ) & some just inflammatory - I think that I shall spend less time there & more time here, & try to contribute more to this section from now on , because, as I see it, we need to support Volvo as they are great supporters of the disabled ,through the choices of cars with low deposits, now available through Motability for instance - they really must be commended for bringing in the XC60, and maybe I'll open a thread on it?

I'm sorry to hear about Mrs. Spits accident and her encounters with 'the uninitiated ', to some it can be very depressing being thought of as being different , but I say 'vivre le difference' Mrs S. - we're still the same people, we might now look a little different & we may have to live our lives a little differently, but so what, we're the same inside as we always were!

Different doesn't mean 'inferior ' !


Best regards to you both.

Spitfire4 Jul 6th, 2015 21:02

You're so right, just need to convince her.

Got the XC60 so she can get in and out easier, it's a great car for that and big enough to get her wheelchair in. Excellent discounts too and because she is in a wheelchair when outside the house for everything, got the VAT back which made the car affordable.

Keep up the good work with this forum, it's appreciated and I hope all goes well with you and yours.

Cheers
Mick

Ps I showed her this and it brought a smile to her face, she's a fighter and survivor, don't know if I could be as strong as her! Hope this has given her a boost and her fighting spirit back. The school were always a bit scared when she turned up, she would tell Them where they were going wrong didn't mince her words!

volvorocks Jul 6th, 2015 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike 700 (Post 1942783)

Different doesn't mean 'inferior ' !

I view 'different' as being superior.:thumbs_up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire4 (Post 1942802)

Ps I showed her this and it brought a smile to her face, she's a fighter and survivor, don't know if I could be as strong as her! Hope this has given her a boost and her fighting spirit back. The school were always a bit scared when she turned up, she would tell Them where they were going wrong didn't mince her words!

Your wife sounds very much like my late mother. She was a fighter. They would have got on well together. My mother carried on regardless where lesser people would have given up. Quite often amazed doctors. Quite often amazed me and also my father and the rest of us with what she coped with.

All the best :natur008:

stuartvolvo Aug 8th, 2015 13:13

language
 
Sorry for again not being on for a while, but as most of you know, I am very busy attending appointments my self and also writing the articles for driver. Anyway, I popped on again just to check my section, and I am very disappointed to read the language that is being used. Can I please ask that it is kept clean at all times otherwise posts will be either deleted or bans put in place for repeat offenders. I myself, get annoyed at the way this forum goes some times, with people stirring this up. That is not why this forum was first created. It was created to help Volvo owners keep their cars running. With all the different sections the forum now has, I found that it was lacking a disabled section which is why I spent many months to get it created, as I wanted to share some of my experiences and also advice on how to claim for certain benefits to help others out that struggled to find the necessary information like I did.

Regards
Stuart

luggsey Feb 13th, 2016 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 1926177)
My 2003 V70 has been on loan to my Wife's parents for some time, and it has had fitted an electric crane/winch in order that an electric scooter can be lifted into the cargo space.

The winch has hardly been used (fitted about 6 months ago) and because of a recent bereavement is no longer needed. We like to sell it for circa £300 (it was about £1000 new), the scooter is also available (nearly new too).

I do not know the makes of the winch/scooter but can advise if any interest (can supply pics but the car is not with me at the moment: it is in Sussex).

Thank you for looking.

Jon
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

Please post some pics of the scooter hoist or email them.
luggsey@hotmail.com
Ta.

mixa Mar 12th, 2016 22:55

The anoying thing is how a for sale tread , irrelivent of the wording ends in a slanging match. it is true that many people class some one who is diabled as a lesser person or if they have no shown problems as coming it with nothing wrong , both my wife and i are classed disabled due to what cancer and its treat ment have done we both have all our limbs , she worse than me , she has had 3 strokes , i have nerve damage that means at times my mobility is very restricied with out a truck load of painkillers , i looked on this thread because there was no item in the for sale add , i continued reading because of the crap that was being banded about ,which i imagine way many others have done

Mike 700 Mar 13th, 2016 10:20

Nothing for sale, yet, but I have recently been looking at changing my mobility scooter, which is now around 18 months old and has covered probably around 25-30 miles only.

It cost me £1064 new, and the point of this post is that 'depreciation' on mobility scooters is ' unbelievable'!

I have tried P/E - best I can get is £250 , 76-77% depreciation in 18 months?

& been advised to sell it privately with an asking price of £300!

Just imagine buying a new Volvo for say £35,000 & 18 months later it's only worth around £ 8,500?

The trouble is, that retailers are discounting so heavily on new scooters at the moment' that used scooter prices/ values are going thru the floor!

Obviously lower pricing is a good thing overall, and I guess I am just going to have to bite the bullet and go for a heavily discounted job, so that the low price I'll get for mine doesn't seem so bad??

volvoid Mar 13th, 2016 10:41

These gadgets are for physical disabilities, they dont do a lot for mental ones.
So stop squabbling unless its funny

jsh1988 Mar 20th, 2016 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike 700 (Post 2076613)
Nothing for sale, yet, but I have recently been looking at changing my mobility scooter, which is now around 18 months old and has covered probably around 25-30 miles only.

It cost me £1064 new, and the point of this post is that 'depreciation' on mobility scooters is ' unbelievable'!

I have tried P/E - best I can get is £250 , 76-77% depreciation in 18 months?

& been advised to sell it privately with an asking price of £300!

Just imagine buying a new Volvo for say £35,000 & 18 months later it's only worth around £ 8,500?

The trouble is, that retailers are discounting so heavily on new scooters at the moment' that used scooter prices/ values are going thru the floor!

Obviously lower pricing is a good thing overall, and I guess I am just going to have to bite the bullet and go for a heavily discounted job, so that the low price I'll get for mine doesn't seem so bad??


Anything to do with disability, the manufacture or reseller will try and milk the customers dry...

Manual Wheelchairs are worse, My latest one was just shy of £4000 (will do me about 4-5 year). But to manufacture it would cost £300-£400 material wise.

Captive market, not along an be done about it :(

Mike 700 Mar 28th, 2016 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsh1988 (Post 2080885)
Anything to do with disability, the manufacture or reseller will try and milk the customers dry...

Manual Wheelchairs are worse, My latest one was just shy of £4000 (will do me about 4-5 year). But to manufacture it would cost £300-£400 material wise.

Captive market, not along an be done about it :(

I am inclined to agree.

Regards.


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