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venomtail Mar 10th, 2020 19:49

Problems won't go away. What else could there be?
 
So my S80 was in a dire state. Loved the car and decided to bite the bullet and get it repaired.
  • Replaced brakes
  • Wheel bearing
  • New tires
  • Complete transmission change
  • Complete engine oil change
  • New alternator
  • New maf sensor
  • A full swirl cap kit replacement
  • Actuator arm replacement
  • Soot filter proffesionally cleaned
  • And likely something else that I've forgotten

and after all of this, my car STILL will barely run in a sort of limp mode state with a more than average white smoke (or is it steam? Maybe from leftover chemicals used to clean the soot filter?), and has an "Engine system Service urgent" message on the dashboard. No check engine lights. My 2 OBD2 readers also says everything's fine as doesn't read any error codes.

My mechanic said that after I get the filter cleaned I should go back to him so he can do a quick 5 minute one last check just so nothing else pops up but sadly he's gonna have more work cut out for him.

Does anyone have the slightest suggestion as in what could be going wrong? What is there left to do? Could it literally just be a computer glitch that's causing all of this?

I've spent so much money on it I will never be able to sell it and even get a quater of the value. Kinda hopeless. But incase I have no other options but to sell it, what does a limp mode running S80 go for? £200? £300?

Kev0607 Mar 10th, 2020 23:33

1. Are you losing any coolant, or is there any oil in the coolant reservoir or a white gunk on the oil cap? White smoke is an indication of a blown head gasket, as the coolant or oil is entering the combustion chamber causing white smoke/steam.

2. Cracked cylinder head could cause white smoke

3. You could have an injector issue, as too much fuel is being added to the combustion chamber & that can also create white smoke because the fuel isn't being burned properly because there's too much of it.

You need VIDA/Dice (Specific software for Volvo's) & do a diagnostic check with that. A Volvo dealership or Volvo independent specialist will have this software, as normal OBD readers don't always show fault codes. VIDA will do a full check of all the modules in the car & should flag any underlying issues.

seanc Mar 11th, 2020 19:36

Diesel or petrol?
Does the engine idle smoothly?

Gazdkw Mar 11th, 2020 20:45

If you can get to Leicester I can run diagnosis on it. It may shed light on the cause

venomtail Mar 17th, 2020 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2608907)
Diesel or petrol?
Does the engine idle smoothly?

Diesel. Yes the engine idles smoothly or at least I think it does. It's been so long the last time I drove it and fixed it I'm forgetting what it should sound like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev0607 (Post 2608672)
1. Are you losing any coolant, or is there any oil in the coolant reservoir or a white gunk on the oil cap? White smoke is an indication of a blown head gasket, as the coolant or oil is entering the combustion chamber causing white smoke/steam.

2. Cracked cylinder head could cause white smoke

3. You could have an injector issue, as too much fuel is being added to the combustion chamber & that can also create white smoke because the fuel isn't being burned properly because there's too much of it.

You need VIDA/Dice (Specific software for Volvo's) & do a diagnostic check with that. A Volvo dealership or Volvo independent specialist will have this software, as normal OBD readers don't always show fault codes. VIDA will do a full check of all the modules in the car & should flag any underlying issues.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazdkw (Post 2608924)
If you can get to Leicester I can run diagnosis on it. It may shed light on the cause

So I went to the local volvo mechanic and the car still had DPF error codes still. Saying that the filter is full, the temperature sensor threw an error as well as the pressure sensor. Will go to a mechanic who cleans the DPF filters proffesionally as well as replace the 2 sensors.

Can really a full sensor make my car go in limp mode where it struggles to get uphill? One full DPF filter to cripple a car seems like a really extreme safety measure?

There are no other errors on the car other than my 1 parking sensor not working but that's the least of my concerns.

Booked the car in in 2 weeks time and then hopefully I'll update you on what's happened. Been a really long grind trying to get this car repaired for the last 8 months.

Simmy Mar 17th, 2020 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by venomtail (Post 2608605)
So my S80 was in a dire state. Loved the car and decided to bite the bullet and get it repaired.
  • Replaced brakes
  • Wheel bearing
  • New tires
  • Complete transmission change
  • Complete engine oil change
  • New alternator
  • New maf sensor
  • A full swirl cap kit replacement
  • Actuator arm replacement
  • Soot filter proffesionally cleaned
  • And likely something else that I've forgotten

and after all of this, my car STILL will barely run in a sort of limp mode state with a more than average white smoke (or is it steam? Maybe from leftover chemicals used to clean the soot filter?), and has an "Engine system Service urgent" message on the dashboard. No check engine lights. My 2 OBD2 readers also says everything's fine as doesn't read any error codes.

My mechanic said that after I get the filter cleaned I should go back to him so he can do a quick 5 minute one last check just so nothing else pops up but sadly he's gonna have more work cut out for him.

Does anyone have the slightest suggestion as in what could be going wrong? What is there left to do? Could it literally just be a computer glitch that's causing all of this?

I've spent so much money on it I will never be able to sell it and even get a quater of the value. Kinda hopeless. But incase I have no other options but to sell it, what does a limp mode running S80 go for? £200? £300?

multiple soot filter messages can throw up a tcm code which can put the car in limp mode . th this can only be cleared with a top quality scanner or vida.

venomtail Mar 18th, 2020 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmy (Post 2610600)
multiple soot filter messages can throw up a tcm code which can put the car in limp mode . th this can only be cleared with a top quality scanner or vida.

Well the "Soot filter full" message kept coming back so we're all assuming it will be to blame and not a one off error message.

Also about the vida scanners. Are those volvo specific? I bought 2 obd2 readers (bluedriver and one Launch both for about £100) and they coudn't read anything except live data. My mechanic had an Autel one that read the codes but they are really expensive.
I'm looking around and these vida scanners go around £100. Would they be able to read the codes? Are they worth it?

Tatsfield Mar 18th, 2020 12:45

https://www.obd2shop.co.uk/wholesale...waAgPBEALw_wcB

£71 with free shipping Good for Volvos up to 2015

Simmy Mar 18th, 2020 17:48

a working tested vida dice on a lap top is nearer to £300 maybe a kind fourm member who has one can help you

Tatsfield Mar 18th, 2020 20:19

I bought a £75 VIDA and a £50 ThinkPad fitted with an SSD and also a car charger for the laptop for £6. So my complete working VIDA cost me £131 and if I had had a working laptop upon which to run it, the cost would have been £81. You really don't need a great laptop. The thing runs on Win7 so a 10 year old laptop would work for it just fine! The ThinkPad is built like a brick outhouse and serves the purpose of a dedicated piece of car test equipment. It runs quite fast because of the SSD but even an unmodified old laptop would be perfectly adequate. This is old technology and only needs obsolete gear to run it.


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