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doomvolvo Feb 8th, 2006 22:59

Turbo/supercharger
 
This isnt the usual "can I fit a turbo to my 1.7" but a new one! Can I fit a turbo to my 2.0???
I'm aware that just before the end of the line for the 400 series car they had developed a 2.0 turbo for the more sportier models! I have heard that a low presure turbo may be possible.
I also thought maybe a supercharger could be used although I have very little knowledge of these although I know it's a popular conversion on minis, hondas and BMW's. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
cheers

tuning_redblock Feb 8th, 2006 23:13

Your best bet would be to look at a jap motor for a supercharger, see Practicle Performance car, this month they are doing something with superchargers bought abroad.

Sorry for the lack of info but it's not my scene, the 400's that is, but best of luck

Andi K

Steve B Feb 9th, 2006 13:21

Did see a 480 with a T4 engine in out of a S40. Think they had problems at the time with cooling, as there wasn't much space in the engine bay. Think the T5 is a little too big.

You can Supercharge engines, but you have to watch out for your compression ratios, and you also have to upgrade valves, stems, pistons, flywheel and cams I think, (£££££'s). IMO not worth it on the 2.0ltr engine - it's not that good. I'd look into a T4 transplant, with upgraded gearbox, suspension and brakes to match. It's gonna be expensive either way though.

Pedro Fandango Feb 9th, 2006 13:45

since i had a 480 i've always wondered why they turbo'd the 1.7 & not the 2, not sure how much difference there is between exhaust manifolds etc on the 1.7 compared to the 2 but would of loved to of done it

Steve B Feb 9th, 2006 14:12

Yup, totally agree. The 480 Turbo could have handled a lot more power. If it was more popular in terms of sales, it may have been more cost effective to have a 2 ltr Turbo. But I think development cost were too high, for a little return.

Mark480 Feb 9th, 2006 17:48

Volvo reportedly worked on a 2.0 litre turbo but it was never produced. The 2.0 litre was "de-tuned" to avoid competition with the 1.7 turbo. As for the manifolds they are pretty similar and a 1.7 manifold is an improvement on the 2.0 litre one.

Steve B Feb 9th, 2006 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark480
Volvo reportedly worked on a 2.0 litre turbo but it was never produced. The 2.0 litre was "de-tuned" to avoid competition with the 1.7 turbo. As for the manifolds they are pretty similar and a 1.7 manifold is an improvement on the 2.0 litre one.

'De-tuned', ha ha, spot on. Although I got 141mph out of my 480 Turbo, the car should have been a lot quicker. A little more development work on the 1.7 Turbo would have really made it a flying machine...shame.

doomvolvo Feb 10th, 2006 16:41

I'm getting a nice 115 out of my pretty standard 2.0 already with only a free flow air intake in place at the mo. Dosen't take too long to get there either! Thinking about getting the engine blue printed as this apparently makes the engine work at absolute peak for you along with a mappable chip! Just wondered about the turbo thing as its been said Volvo did develop the monster engine! I'm not really into the whole engine swap thing at least until I've blown this one up anyway. Want to see how far I can push it

Steve B Feb 10th, 2006 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomvolvo
I'm getting a nice 115 out of my pretty standard 2.0 already with only a free flow air intake in place at the mo. Dosen't take too long to get there either! Thinking about getting the engine blue printed as this apparently makes the engine work at absolute peak for you along with a mappable chip! Just wondered about the turbo thing as its been said Volvo did develop the monster engine! I'm not really into the whole engine swap thing at least until I've blown this one up anyway. Want to see how far I can push it

As said, unless you've a bucket load of cash, the turbo added on to the 2ltr would require a host of new internal engine parts anyway, to cope with the extra pressure and heat given off. Some of this stuff may be one off stuff too. It would be cheaper to fit a T4 from a scrappers. The compression ratios are out too.

The part developed Volvo 2ltr Turbo, will internally be quite different in terms of parts and grade than your current normal 2ltr. So it's not a case of bolting a turbo on - as i'm sure ya know.

How about NOS? Cheap and easy power gains!

Mark480 Feb 10th, 2006 18:11

You should be getting more than 115 out of your 2.0 litre. I have had an indicated 130+ on more than one occasion. That's a completely standard 480 with driver, passanger and full tank of fuel.

The "de-tuned" thing is absolutely true. The lack of BHP is more than made up for by the torque and smoothness, in my opinion! The 2.0 litre has been turbo'd by more than one person. Most successfully by a chap in Germany who I think at last rolling road was getting 200 BHP and over 350 Nm of torque - that was a "half finished" project!


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