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TeamG Nov 26th, 2023 17:33

Brake discs and pads
 
Was just swapping my wheels front/rear and decided it’s time to replace all discs and pads, so just shopping around for a reasonable deal. Autodoc is coming in at £251 for a full set of Brembo front and rear, which seems to be the best deal I can get currently. Cheapest full set of Volvo genuine parts is coming in at £490.

Any thoughts on alternative manufacturers and places to buy?

I’ll be doing the rears using my 9v battery method and using ProSlip pin/clip/pad lube. If anyone is interested and fancies giving it a go, I’d be happy to document and post the process and photos?

And for the tyre wear geeks out there. Michelin Crossclimate SUVs with 23000 miles on them. Fronts had worn down to 5mm, rears to 7mm!

Pidgeonpost Nov 26th, 2023 18:12

Have you seen this post?

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...ht=BRAKE+DISCS

Might be worth enquiring?

Squire Nov 26th, 2023 19:37

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Originally Posted by TeamG (Post 2924629)
Was just swapping my wheels front/rear and decided it’s time to replace all discs and pads, so just shopping around for a reasonable deal. Autodoc is coming in at £251 for a full set of Brembo front and rear, which seems to be the best deal I can get currently. Cheapest full set of Volvo genuine parts is coming in at £490.

Any thoughts on alternative manufacturers and places to buy?

I’ll be doing the rears using my 9v battery method and using ProSlip pin/clip/pad lube. If anyone is interested and fancies giving it a go, I’d be happy to document and post the process and photos?

And for the tyre wear geeks out there. Michelin Crossclimate SUVs with 23000 miles on them. Fronts had worn down to 5mm, rears to 7mm!

Thanks, I'd love to know the process with photos so please do document it.

Thanks again,

Martyn

TeamG Nov 27th, 2023 08:53

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My first task was to confirm the right parts. I used the Brembo website, which showed a single option for rear disc 09.B026.11 and two pad options (one standard, one updated), so went for the standard P86 021. For front, there are two disc options, a 328mm and 324mm diameter. The photo attached shows where on my front caliper the size is stamped, right at the very top. For me, 324mm which is 09.C522.11. Front pads showed two options, for me the P86 026 corresponded with my VIN number and year.

A quick log onto AutoDoc this morning showed additional discount for “Cyber Monday” and I therefore paid £211.60, splashing out extravagantly £3.95 on the Safe Order no-quibble free return (just in case).

I did get a price from Mon Volvo in Cardiff - £1,170.60 fitted or £774.60 parts only. That’s a whopping £396 labour for what must only be a 1-1.5hr job if you have a workshop/ramp etc. It’ll only take me around 2hrs on my drive with a trolley jack and axle stand.

Darthstinky Nov 27th, 2023 23:27

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Originally Posted by TeamG (Post 2924719)
My first task was to confirm the right parts. I used the Brembo website, which showed a single option for rear disc 09.B026.11 and two pad options (one standard, one updated), so went for the standard P86 021. For front, there are two disc options, a 328mm and 324mm diameter. The photo attached shows where on my front caliper the size is stamped, right at the very top. For me, 324mm which is 09.C522.11. Front pads showed two options, for me the P86 026 corresponded with my VIN number and year.

A quick log onto AutoDoc this morning showed additional discount for “Cyber Monday” and I therefore paid £211.60, splashing out extravagantly £3.95 on the Safe Order no-quibble free return (just in case).

I did get a price from Mon Volvo in Cardiff - £1,170.60 fitted or £774.60 parts only. That’s a whopping £396 labour for what must only be a 1-1.5hr job if you have a workshop/ramp etc. It’ll only take me around 2hrs on my drive with a trolley jack and axle stand.


Check the fitting closely as the 1st set of front pads I picked up from AutoDoc were listed as compatible for my v60 but didn’t fit (depth was out). AutoDoc DO list the dimensions for each part which helps…

PS if you use the AutoDoc app and ‘check in’ daily you get 10p each day you check in which can be used to off set your purchase (not all at once but hey its free cash none the less - I’ve been doing it for 6 months and upto £27 of credit)

PPS - Replace the disk retaining nut (torx jobbie), about £3 each from AutoDoc if you can…previous owner reused mine and it stripped causing me to drill it out - which was a pain…

DS

Darthstinky Nov 27th, 2023 23:32

Oh and EBC I found a good alternative to brembos on my previous fiat coupe and skylines..

https://ebcbrakesdirect.com/?gad_sou...BoCN9wQAvD_BwE

Go for the fast road pads, DO NOT use the track pads on the road…they take too long to heat up in normal road conditions…

DS

TeamG Nov 28th, 2023 13:07

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Originally Posted by Darthstinky (Post 2924851)
Check the fitting closely as the 1st set of front pads I picked up from AutoDoc were listed as compatible for my v60 but didn’t fit (depth was out). AutoDoc DO list the dimensions for each part which helps…

PS if you use the AutoDoc app and ‘check in’ daily you get 10p each day you check in which can be used to off set your purchase (not all at once but hey its free cash none the less - I’ve been doing it for 6 months and upto £27 of credit)

PPS - Replace the disk retaining nut (torx jobbie), about £3 each from AutoDoc if you can…previous owner reused mine and it stripped causing me to drill it out - which was a pain…

DS

I’ve used the Brembo website to confirm part numbers and compatibility with the OE parts, so hopefully fine. Good call on the set screws to retain the brake discs, I’ll give a good soaking in WD40 and use the hammer-tap method to break them loose. As they’re only 35Nm, if they come out tidy they’ll be fine to go back in.

GrahamHR Nov 28th, 2023 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darthstinky (Post 2924851)
Check the fitting closely as the 1st set of front pads I picked up from AutoDoc were listed as compatible for my v60 but didn’t fit (depth was out). AutoDoc DO list the dimensions for each part which helps…

PS if you use the AutoDoc app and ‘check in’ daily you get 10p each day you check in which can be used to off set your purchase (not all at once but hey its free cash none the less - I’ve been doing it for 6 months and upto £27 of credit)

PPS - Replace the disk retaining nut (torx jobbie), about £3 each from AutoDoc if you can…previous owner reused mine and it stripped causing me to drill it out - which was a pain…

DS

Really, that single disc to hub retaining bolt (not nut) is superfluous. Used on the production line to ensure the disc is still in place when the calipers and pads are fitted. In use, the wheel keeps the hub firmly against the disc. 5 x M14 bolts at a rather large torque, compared to what, an M8 bolt ? ! No need to use a special bolt at all.

TeamG Nov 29th, 2023 08:44

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Originally Posted by GrahamHR (Post 2924992)
Really, that single disc to hub retaining bolt (not nut) is superfluous. Used on the production line to ensure the disc is still in place when the calipers and pads are fitted. In use, the wheel keeps the hub firmly against the disc. 5 x M14 bolts at a rather large torque, compared to what, an M8 bolt ? ! No need to use a special bolt at all.

The main benefits are stopping the disc moving forwards when changing a wheel, allowing crud to drop into the nicely cleaned and wire brushed surfaces behind, together with keeping the bolt holes lined up with the holes in the hub. They are low torque, so very unlikely to strip when tightening. The main issue is them being corroded in, made worse by so many heating/cooling cycles. A quick tap with a hammer usually helps, or reversing direction and quick blasts on an impact gun.

If they do snap on removal, you can still get the new disc over them to allow time to find a replacement on ebay. Stud remover for the old one when ready.

GrahamHR Nov 29th, 2023 22:39

True, I still have them fitted to my cars, Astonishing that they were never coated with any type of anti-corrosion/ lubricant compound etc , It's not like they were torqued up. Probably overtightened since new.

I put a little colloidal nickel on the threads of those small M6/ M8 bolts.


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