DLA and PIP
 

Hi,
As anyone that receives Disability Living Allowance may know that Department for Work and Pensions are now changing Disability Living Allowance (DLA) to (PIP) Personal Independence Payment. I have already been asked to start the process, so hopefully if I change over ok, and I am accepted for this PIP, I will make a write up about the procedures to help others out. It does not matter if you are on DLA Indefinitely or for a fixed period of time, Everybody that has DLA will need to change over.

Regards
Stuart

The proccess is easy Stuart, my wife went through it earlier this year and was sorted out very quickly (by DWP standards !)

My wife went through this earlier this year and went smoothly.

Not everyone has to convert. If you are over 65 and receiving DLA indefinately, you stay on DLA.

Only if you were 65 or over before 8 April 2013, wife changed because her circumstances had got much worse.

Sorry, forgot to put in the relevant date.

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Pip
 

BEJ,
I am afraid it does not matter what age you are or if you are infinity on DLA or not, Everybody has to change over. I have the paperwork in front of me, and I double checked before I posted this. Everybody that is on DLA no matter the circumstances have to change over now. I believe that they were looking into keeping people on DLA under certain circumstances but unfortunately I think they have changed their minds.

I am hoping that the transition goes smoothly for my self.

Regards
Stuart

Good luck, didn't realise they had changed the goalposts again! But does say on the bottom if page two on the gov site

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...lacing-dla.pdf

That those 65 and over before 8 April 2013 won't change to PIP, so who knows?!

I've always trusted this site best for info and news on what the goverment are trying to do next.
Hope the link works ok

http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/


Alan

Best wishes, I hope it's not too traumatic and they deal with fairly and quickly!

We're just going through it now. My wife has been on indefinite DLA since 2009, so they took a while to get round to us. Her condition has seriously deteriorated since then, because it does. When we filled in the form and answered the questions, we found a website that told us what our score should be.

To get the full mobility and the full care, you need to score 12 in each category, for a total of 24 points.

My wife's score was 72.

Yet still they want to do a face-to-face assessment. Tw@s.

Anyway, we're going to have to sell our V70. :( The wife can no longer use it, we need a full on wheelchair accessible vehicle.

Good luck hope it goes well.

I have just turned 65 last month so I suppose its going to be more form filling for me in the future :realmad: I really love form filling....not

its a nightmare isn't it :(

My esa ended as effectively i was in the wrong group after deterioration but id been informing the wrong department @the dwp :( so applied again and they found against me after 6 months waiting ... so i had to write up an 8 page doc on why they were wrong, and that's before the inevitable appeal :(
Stress is unbelievable \;(

First of all I think that the Government has been exceptionally brave to tackle the shambles of the welfare bill & recipients, because waste and fraud were, and still are to a point, a disgrace, and therefore genuine claimants were/are being penalised.

Secondly however, the way that they have tackled this waste and fraud, has also been a disgrace, and a disaster for some!

Genuinely needy claimants are having their allowances substantially reduced or stopped , whilst waste & fraud is still rife.

We must stop this waste, but not this way, not by appointing a bunch of useless amateurs to assess disabled people and their needs, and getting so much wrong.

People in my grouping I.e. With 'progressive' diseases such as Parkinson's and MS & also MND, are having their allowances removed, only to go to court & to have the decisions reversed by the Judges, but at what cost, if the Government lose and have to pay the claimant's costs?

Progressive means it will get worse , not better, therefore funding may also need to be progressive ', not only for those groups mentioned, but for others also, but the thick amateurs assessing people don't understand even this one word from the English language so how much longer can they be allowed to continue?

I repeat, we really must stop the waste, for everyone's benefit, but not like this!

Still on dla and no pip
 

Dont even get me started on this....

But the jist of mine is simple Had Car crash 2007 drivers seat (ford XR4X4) went from an L to a V shape ...
So bottom back totally shot it was walking around for 2 yrs and still no better then found out I had 7 disc's out no wonder I was in pain so long story short
Spinal surgeon says back shot it NO OPERATION is going to fix it or put it right...
Cant fuse it together or I will walk like a penguin.... so 6 months later all my benefits stopped and I mean ALL had a arbitration and they except I was in pain and gave me minimum allowance £20 a week and if Iwas to contest it again they said they will stop that as well talk about BLACK MAIL ...

But im still on DLA and WONT be going to PIP according to Benefit people .. good ole England payed into the system all my life my turn to claim and ...

STOP not a penny in 2 yrs as they sort it out so all my savings about gone but im alive LOL

Rant over

^ surely the Insurance should have paid out to cover this though?

Another sham is insurance ...because I had a bad back before ...and by this I mean digging the garden and had back pain for 3 days ..3 DAYS so 2 days off work ....
Yea we all had them and there fore I cannot claim ....the car crash has nothing to do with my back pain
Bearing in mind 3 days and back to work and and no problems after this and then 2 yrs after crash i'm still in pain can hardly move but insurance say ...NO pay out was car £2 and 1K for me .... :loser:

My Mrs is on DLA, highest care and lower mobility, and her mobility has deteriorated but we put off changing her claim in fear of what PIP has in store for us. She has enduring mental illness and other illnesses in addition to her osteoarthritis. When she originally claimed she could stand and walk limited distances without pain but now she is in constant pain and needs her scooter whenever we go out. She really should be on higher mobility or be given hip replacements but we're to scared to claim and she's too young for replacements at 50. Catch 22

As I understand it, at cumbrianfemale's age, DLA will be replaced by PIP in any event, so you may be simply putting off the evil day, during which time she is suffering, perhaps unnecessarily?

If the fear is 'losing benefits' then that is understandable, but the answer is to prove that she is in need of them , and not only can the doctor help, but so can you in several ways - friends of mine in the same frame of mind, have managed with some help, and it appears that there are now fewer appeals & court cases?

Genuine claimants should never fear the assessment, especially if 'without medication' they present as genuinely in need of help?

yea Mike that's the problem ....

I have all the records and MRI scans along with X- Ray along with a Dr who is a spinal surgeon...
Who spent years at collage for his profession and I lost all mine to a ACAS pen pusher who knows more than a qualified Dr .. thats the problem we are up against

I have all the proof but its still no good so I /we lose out that's how bad it is but low and be hold the immigrants who paid nothing into the system can have it ... this is where the struggle comes in and thats why people on DLA ..PIP are voting ukip nothing more just so we get our rights back ..sad to say but its true ..

Mike 700

Many years ago when it was still Invalidity Benefit the Mrs had one of the capability assessments done by ATOS or whoever were their predecessors. Lo and behold she is fit for work, ironically the letter came the same week she was in hospital having more surgery. Appeal logged 50 week wait and the judge slammed the DSS and there assessor and reinstated her benefit backdated to the day they signed her off. The kids had to do without and we ran up further debts just keeping our head above water for the year and it took us a good while to get back on our feet as it were.

Her CPN has already said they will give us evidence to submit with her claim when it comes and they have a welfare rights adviser who will assist with completing the forms. She was originally to be transitioned over to PIP in, the last group on an indefinite award, 2016 but given Gov't efficiencies it is now targeted for 2018. Once bitten twice shy and all that.

Gazzza

Immigrants have nothing to do with it. It's inept Gov't and their corrupt servants in the form of ATOS.

Yea they do because at mates work there immigrants claim for kids back home ( tesco )...they aint got any kids back home as he found out but the money comes from our benefits so we go with out... this is how it works we pay into it and they not paid into the system but still claim our benefit money.
So yes immigrants HAVE A LOT to do with it do not get mislead like you have...
Because our money which is stoped goes where ? and the immigrants claim there money comes from where ... Donald trump ?
No it comes from OUR benefits that I and others have LOST we cant claim trust me there is many people who have looked into this and this is how it works ...:thumbs_up:

Disgraceful that she/you had that amount of time to wait for a judgement, not just financially, but health wise, so your reluctance to take the initiative is fully understood!

Unfortunately the dreaded day will come again , and frankly, 'preparation is everything' !

The problem with assessments by amateurs ( the recently trained ) is that they appear to be conducting these assessments on the basis that everyone is a 'benefits cheat ' until proven otherwise ( guilty until proven innocent ) and that of course comes straight from their training, or lack of it, and you can safely bet that they carry out 'role playing' Exercises during this training on this very basis - it's like ' the answer is no, now, what's the question'?

See my reply about amateurs.

Regards,

My judgment took 18 months with NO MONEY and at the hearing said no ....wow thanks for that ...now had to cash in my retirement money to live on :thumbs_up:

Very sorry to hear that - is there a right of appeal?


Regards

That was THE APPEAL Mike.... walked in not even a chance to sit down ...one person stood up did the shouting to intimidate my social worker and it worked she went out ... i was in a bad way at the time so just followed her and she said that's it ...and off she went ... GUTTED

There is plenty of money sloshing about in the system, enough to give all genuine disability claimants a decent allowance whether DLA or PiP - some £41 billion , that's £ 41,000,000,000, but it is not all going to the needy, and thereby lies the problem, not the funding!

As I said in an earlier post, it takes a brave Government to tackle this problem area, because they are damned if they do, and equally damned if they don't, but it must be tackled and replaced with a much fairer system that only the genuinely needy can access, without the trauma of a long wait and an eventual court hearing - a GP and 'specialist' report must be enough, surely?

Following my redundancy from the "banking world' - thank you Mr. Brown, I became a Director of a Credit Union, where I met 'face to face' hundreds of DLA recipients, and from this hands on experience , I know that many were claiming yet had absolutely nothing wrong with them..

How many billions are spent on false claims and claimants I wonder -even a 10% saving , which would be around £4 Billion, could I guess, satisfy all genuine clalims.

I just dont understand it Mike I have X-Rays ...Mri scans...
..

And as of yesterdays visit to my Dr's....Now being told I got the start of Arthritis on lower spine ...:stormy::censored::censored::censored:

But i cant do a dam thing about it because no one will listen ...ok rant over back to normal world ...now where did I put the Bacardi and coke :thumbs_up: