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steve mooney Dec 10th, 2013 20:30

V70 T6 Performance Improvements ?
 
Just bought an ex police V70 3litre T6 AWD, its done 140k motorway miles. Its pretty quick already ( said to be 300bhp in the advert ) - but what are the options to make it go a bit quicker ?... Can anyone give me some advice on good re-mapping companies, or other lower cost improvements in and around the Norfolk / Cambs area. Cheers .....

Orca2 Dec 10th, 2013 20:49

Thank god you bought it ,if it was still for sale after xmas i wouldn'thave been able to resist any longer and mrs orca would have killed me. I have been watching it onautotrader for weeks .
I am really glad someone on here got it it looks awesome, let us know how fast it really is once you get it going,
Is it the ford 3.0 l v6 engine?
Turning green now, keep us updated.

steve mooney Dec 11th, 2013 17:01

Hi Orca2
Im not sure whether its a ford engine, but it looks like a straight six to me. A guy at a local garage said its a twin turbo..... Im just getting used to it, but it goes like a train!!....

don kalmar union Dec 11th, 2013 19:19

V70 t6.
 
Volvo straight 6 made at Ford's Bridgend plant: Ford intended it to be used in Ford, Land Rover and Jaguar vehicles but their disposal of those brands plus Volvo meant that did not happen.

A problem arises with changing the software in these cars due to Volvo's PINCODE BANDITRY.

A PINCODE system prevents any aftermarket firm from making software adjustments by flashing in through the OBD port which has been the effective and easy option for some years now.

The practice is a flagrant breach of basic EU competition legislation concerning abuse of a monopoly position but to date no-one has put up a case to bring this racket to a halt. Don't forget that this prevents any entity other than a Volvo dealer from making all manner of routine service replacements of components in these vehicles: an absolute racket that so far has prompted little interest from unsuspecting owners.

Fair enough it ****es off myself and my competitors but that is frankly a very small consideration in the widest context of this scam.

Back to the original subject, there are work arounds in respect of introducing aftermarket software but they are time consuming and costly, but safe and doable....so it can be done...

Best regards, irritated of Chesham

aka Don.

Kalmar Union Ltd.

Orca2 Dec 11th, 2013 22:57

How much faster does it need to be steve the blurb I read up on it when I looked at ot reckoned ot had no rev limiter and was specifically designed to be able to beat a BMW m3 point to point on the motorway, now that is fast. It has to be good for 0 -60 of under 5 secs and top speed over 170 . When I told mrs Orca this she said when would you ever do 170 About ten seconds after I bought it I thought. Lol.
Sounds like an absolute beast of a car you lucky ,lucky B.
Cheers orca.

I-S Dec 11th, 2013 23:27

Assuming it's a pre-2011 model the it's probably 285bhp, but can be polestar upgraded to 315: http://www.polestar.com/en-int/model...utomatic-2008/

If later then the gains to be had are rather smaller: http://www.polestar.com/en-int/model...utomatic-2013/

Strangely, the earlier car seems to get a much wider torque band at the same peak (480Nm) than the later car...

It's a shame that Jaguar never took on the SI6 engine as was intended - a straight 6 would have been more appropriate for jaguar than the V6 they have

Orca2 Dec 11th, 2013 23:32

If it is the one i think it is it was specially built as one of eight police interceptors
It is registered as 2008 but has 2009 spec, .

steve mooney Dec 21st, 2013 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orca2 (Post 1535245)
How much faster does it need to be steve the blurb I read up on it when I looked at ot reckoned ot had no rev limiter and was specifically designed to be able to beat a BMW m3 point to point on the motorway, now that is fast. It has to be good for 0 -60 of under 5 secs and top speed over 170 . When I told mrs Orca this she said when would you ever do 170 About ten seconds after I bought it I thought. Lol.
Sounds like an absolute beast of a car you lucky ,lucky B.
Cheers orca.

Thanks for the feedback - your absolutely right, i wont be going anywhere that quick, but im just interested in its actual bhp, and what upgrades you can make to it. It doesnt feel like it does 0-60 in 5 seconds, but that might be due to me putting tesco std unleaded in it.
Not sure about the rev limiter being taken off, but im open to how it can be remapped... any ideas.

steve mooney Dec 21st, 2013 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orca2 (Post 1535285)
If it is the one i think it is it was specially built as one of eight police interceptors
It is registered as 2008 but has 2009 spec, .

It did say it was one of the police interceptors in the ad, but i just thought it may have just been salesman blurb....
Im going to feed it on shell V power - to see what effect this has and get some basic servicing done ( as planning on keeping it for some time ).
Great car - it just makes me smile every time i drive it ...

Orca2 Dec 21st, 2013 18:48

Shell v power really works in these cars, I started using it once in a while in the T5 just to pep it up on long motorway runs. I now use it all the time it actually returns better mpg and noticeable performance improvement full boost acceleration is awesome.
Everyone on here says changing the plugs is the best bang for bucks improvement you can make, and I agree mine feels like a new car when the plugs get done, air filter change really helps too. I Use Volvo plugs or Ngk iridium tipped. You should check if any of the nutters over on T5d5 are setting up a dyno day anywhere near you in the springtime , it lets you check the actual output without forking the full cost out if you go alone.
Make sure you change the oil out for fully synthetic that beast is going to need it!
Keep us updated on how you get on with it, I am kicking myself for not having jumped on a flight to buy it, never mind I would probably have wrapped it round a tree by now, the T5 is addictive enough.

madmuffet Dec 29th, 2013 17:53

Oh man... there's 3 on Ebay at the mo, two white, one dark blue...
£4999 to £6995..
I want, I want, I WANT!!
Need to offload the T5 first tho'

I'm not jealous..... :notworthy:

keithC70 Dec 29th, 2013 19:53

Is this where they came from, Brightwells at Leominster?

http://www.brightwells.com/Vehicles/...stResults.aspx

steve mooney Jan 3rd, 2014 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orca2 (Post 1541338)
Shell v power really works in these cars, I started using it once in a while in the T5 just to pep it up on long motorway runs. I now use it all the time it actually returns better mpg and noticeable performance improvement full boost acceleration is awesome.
Everyone on here says changing the plugs is the best bang for bucks improvement you can make, and I agree mine feels like a new car when the plugs get done, air filter change really helps too. I Use Volvo plugs or Ngk iridium tipped. You should check if any of the nutters over on T5d5 are setting up a dyno day anywhere near you in the springtime , it lets you check the actual output without forking the full cost out if you go alone.
Make sure you change the oil out for fully synthetic that beast is going to need it!
Keep us updated on how you get on with it, I am kicking myself for not having jumped on a flight to buy it, never mind I would probably have wrapped it round a tree by now, the T5 is addictive enough.

Hi Orca2.
The car has now had all filters, spark plugs, and fully synthetic oil flush / change. I really noticed a change after the air filter & spark plug change. Just the transmission flush to do, and cabin filter. Have you ever changed the cabin filter yourself?.. I looked through various clips on youtube, but theres no recent V70 films on there... Im presuming its at the back of the centre console somewhere ( on the passenger side )... Also ive been using the tesco 99ron "Momentum" as well as V-Power. This also seems to run pretty well...

steve mooney Jan 3rd, 2014 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmuffet (Post 1545203)
Oh man... there's 3 on Ebay at the mo, two white, one dark blue...
£4999 to £6995..
I want, I want, I WANT!!
Need to offload the T5 first tho'

I'm not jealous..... :notworthy:

Just had a look - and theres some T6's on there.

steve mooney Jan 3rd, 2014 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithC70 (Post 1545267)
Is this where they came from, Brightwells at Leominster?

http://www.brightwells.com/Vehicles/...stResults.aspx

I got mine from a car dealer in Peterborough.

Orca2 Jan 3rd, 2014 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve mooney (Post 1548942)
Hi Orca2.
The car has now had all filters, spark plugs, and fully synthetic oil flush / change. I really noticed a change after the air filter & spark plug change. Just the transmission flush to do, and cabin filter. Have you ever changed the cabin filter yourself?.. I looked through various clips on youtube, but theres no recent V70 films on there... Im presuming its at the back of the centre console somewhere ( on the passenger side )... Also ive been using the tesco 99ron "Momentum" as well as V-Power. This also seems to run pretty well...

I have never changed the cabin filter, i run with the window down most of the time.lol, I do enjoy the feeling when air filter and plugs are changed, the engine note changes noticably,its like the car gradually gets a little sluggish and you don't really feel it happening ,then you change out the plugs and whoosh its back on form. The vpower stuff is worth every penny in my opinion if I ever fill up with standard the car feels a bit flat.
Did you ever get a dyno figure on yours?

steve mooney Jan 3rd, 2014 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orca2 (Post 1548951)
I have never changed the cabin filter, i run with the window down most of the time.lol, I do enjoy the feeling when air filter and plugs are changed, the engine note changes noticably,its like the car gradually gets a little sluggish and you don't really feel it happening ,then you change out the plugs and whoosh its back on form. The vpower stuff is worth every penny in my opinion if I ever fill up with standard the car feels a bit flat.
Did you ever get a dyno figure on yours?

No Dyno runs yet - i wanted to service the car, and wouldnt mind flushing the transmission first. It was said to have been serviced before i bought it ( may have had the tyres pumped up - but not a lot else done, oil looked pretty dirty, and air filter clearly had not been changed for a while ).
I'll have to look up where my nearest dyno place is, as Norfolk seems a little remote for this.

Orca2 Jan 3rd, 2014 20:12

All those power crazed vpcuk guys are always setting up dyno days where you can get a discounted run for block booking, might be worth checking if they have any coming up near you.

madmuffet Jan 4th, 2014 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve mooney (Post 1548943)
Just had a look - and theres some T6's on there.

the T6's are what I meant Steve...
The blue one's been reduced.
I wonder if it's the one that is listed on that auction that went for £4400?
not a bad bit of profit shown is it??

phillippilkington Mar 29th, 2014 01:41

Hi guys, hope you don't mind me hoping on op. I to have just bought a 59 plate ex police t6. I collect it next week. anyone know if they were polestar? guy rekons it is maped but I have no idea. would like to know as I would look at a map of not. any one any other recommendations for tuning these bad boys?

don kalmar union Mar 30th, 2014 17:40

Performance increase for T6.
 
If you want to pay a Volvo dealer for a polestar branded software download then you will get 329bhp with 480nm of torque. I can offer you MTE's Swedish written software (stage 1) that gives 340bhp with 520nm for pre 2011 cars. Post 2011 MTE's callibrations give 360bhp with the same torque.

The important consideration is that because of Volvo's pincode banditry their dealers are the only ones able to flash through the OBD: with MTE the ECU has to be taken out and addressed on a bench which takes some time and at present can only be done when the man from MTE is over here..... I don't yet have the kit to do it myself.

You might screw a good price out of a local hungry dealer...... MTE's superior calibrations will cost you £595 inc. VAT and a visit to me when I can sort it out.

Best regards, Don.

phillippilkington Apr 2nd, 2014 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by don kalmar union (Post 1614724)
If you want to pay a Volvo dealer for a polestar branded software download then you will get 329bhp with 480nm of torque. I can offer you MTE's Swedish written software (stage 1) that gives 340bhp with 520nm for pre 2011 cars. Post 2011 MTE's callibrations give 360bhp with the same torque.

The important consideration is that because of Volvo's pincode banditry their dealers are the only ones able to flash through the OBD: with MTE the ECU has to be taken out and addressed on a bench which takes some time and at present can only be done when the man from MTE is over here..... I don't yet have the kit to do it myself.

You might screw a good price out of a local hungry dealer...... MTE's superior calibrations will cost you £595 inc. VAT and a visit to me when I can sort it out.

Best regards, Don.

Hi, thanks for your reply, I did actually contact mte via there website, facebook and email, all several times but never got a reply. Where abouts are you? I thought mte might have been a bit cheaper than that since volvo ones aren't much more (750 I believe). I have read some good things about mte, but a little nervous as I have had problems with a remap in the past. I had a brand new c30 and mapped it, the fly wheel had to be replaced every 12 months after that and my mate had his vectra done at the same time and they ruined that too. I really do not want to ruin this one. I wondered if it was worth doing any upgrades before the map but I don't know much about tuning cars.

phillippilkington Apr 2nd, 2014 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by don kalmar union (Post 1614724)
If you want to pay a Volvo dealer for a polestar branded software download then you will get 329bhp with 480nm of torque. I can offer you MTE's Swedish written software (stage 1) that gives 340bhp with 520nm for pre 2011 cars. Post 2011 MTE's callibrations give 360bhp with the same torque.

The important consideration is that because of Volvo's pincode banditry their dealers are the only ones able to flash through the OBD: with MTE the ECU has to be taken out and addressed on a bench which takes some time and at present can only be done when the man from MTE is over here..... I don't yet have the kit to do it myself.

You might screw a good price out of a local hungry dealer...... MTE's superior calibrations will cost you £595 inc. VAT and a visit to me when I can sort it out.

Best regards, Don.

Being thick there lol, just seen your location. Seems a bit of a trek to me, (200m and 4 hrs from me) not saying I wouldn't consider it but it does bring the price up to Volvo price now.

Sorry to sound negative, it isn't my intention, just lots of penny's. I am selling a whole v70 to pay for it lol


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