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Bob Aug 6th, 2007 07:16

Engines covered in this forum
 
200/700/900 - D24/D24TIC (200 not imported into UK)
300 - D172 (not imported into UK)
340 - D16
440 - D19
850/S/V70/S80 to 2002 - D5254T Audi Unit
S60/V70/S80 to 2005 - D5244T (D5) 163BHP
S60/V70/S80 2005 on - 2.4D (163bhp) D5 (185bhp)
S40/V50/C70/C30 - D5, D4204T & D4164T.
S40/V40 to 2004 - D19

Let me know if any others need to be added.

Bob

jor Aug 6th, 2007 11:12

d24
 
Bob,
Don't forget the 900s which came with the D24Tic post '93, before that presumably the D24T or ?D24. We can agree to leave out those 900s equipped with the 5 cylinder motor as they were so rare presumably there are none left.

john

Clan Aug 6th, 2007 21:05

The D24 is a 6 cylinder a big heavy cast iron engine !

jeff.warner Aug 6th, 2007 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jor (Post 272192)
Bob,
Don't forget the 900s which came with the D24Tic post '93, before that presumably the D24T or ?D24. We can agree to leave out those 900s equipped with the 5 cylinder motor as they were so rare presumably there are none left.

john

Hi.
To my knowledge the 900 series never had any of the 5 cylinder units installed.

jor Aug 6th, 2007 23:24

d24
 
Neither did I till - I bought a few bits from a chap in Wales, whose motor had blown and who had grabbed what he could before the truck came to tow it away. The car had belonged to his dad, who bought it new in the U.K. Obviously I was keen to have a look at the documentation and handbook, but they were gone. Genuine chap though, he was reluctant to scrap the car ( I presumed that his dad had died) but a pulley had seized smashing the crank and it wasn't an economical proposition for him to source a new engine.
I wonder if anyone in Volvo UK knows how many there were?

john

dralphs Aug 18th, 2007 23:45

don't forget the D19 in S/V40 >2004
 
Bob


don't forget the D19 in S/V40 >2004

i think it was

D4192T 1996-1999
D4192T2 1999-2000
D4192T3 2001-2002
D4192T4 2002-2004

dave

jaydbass Aug 26th, 2007 01:53

Volkswagon engine?
 
I've got a VW engine (2.4 Turbodiesel) in my 940 estate. What one is that from the list?

JIM C Aug 26th, 2007 05:58

Sorry incorrect posting.
Thanks

jor Aug 27th, 2007 17:24

D24
 
That's either the D24T or the D24Tic. The turbodiesel has 109 hp and the intercooled version 122 hp. I think post 93 cars had the intercooler, which sits in front of the radiator.

john

PAZ3154 Aug 31st, 2007 11:36

just one point ,the 850/S/V70/S80 to 2002 - D5254T Audi Unit should read D5252T.

dearolddaddy Sep 6th, 2007 21:10

940/D24t
 
I have a diesel 940 estate. Being disabled it is perfect for hauling my wheelchair etc. Also the seating is superb with the adjustable lumber support.
I support a section dedicated to diesels. I have searched for some kind of technical book but nothing seems available for this model 93 on.
I have just spent a few hours searching all the FAQ on the 940 but am unsure if I have found the answer as the described fault seems to differ in a small way.
Please advise just what I should open to list my fault to hopefully get an answer.
A brilliant site.

Bob Sep 7th, 2007 07:41

Start a new thread (ie, not a 'Reply' to this thread) on this forum describing the fault and we will see what we can do for you.

Bob

Kynkos Sep 18th, 2007 18:51

Hi everyone.
I've got a little quarry with a friend about the D24TIC.
I'm sure this VW engine is two valve per cylinder, but he stands it's a four valver, and I just can't find the info about it I'm looking for
Can anyone help? Am I right? :Banane59:
Thanks a lot

CTCNetwork Sep 18th, 2007 19:29

Hi,

Try a read through this, it may help..
Linky....

Or try a google search using VW D24TIC as your search term..

Des. . . ;)

jor Sep 19th, 2007 23:44

d24 valves
 
The d24 manual shows 6 inlet and 6 exhaust valves. There's an online manual at www.k-jet.org., which is for the non turbo engine.

john

RoyMacDonald Sep 20th, 2007 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kynkos (Post 291310)
Hi everyone.
I've got a little quarry with a friend about the D24TIC.
I'm sure this VW engine is two valve per cylinder, but he stands it's a four valver, and I just can't find the info about it I'm looking for
Can anyone help? Am I right? :Banane59:
Thanks a lot

Yes you are. The cars are those that were available in Canada by the way.

Engine name: D24T
6 cylinders, 2 valves / cylinder
Turbo: yes
Fuel type: diesel, Fuel delivery: fuel injection
Displacement: 2.383 litres = 145.4 cu. in.
Compression ratio: -1.0 : 1
Notes: [URBANCIC], [GRIMSHAW1]
Cars that use this engine: (1981 240 DIESEL) (1981 260 DIESEL) (1982 240 DIESEL) (1982 260 DIESEL) (1983 240 DIESEL) (1983 760 GLE TD) (1984 240 DIESEL) (1984 760 GLE TD) (1985 240 DIESEL) (1985 760 TD) (1986 740 GLE TD)
Engine name: D4192T

Kynkos Sep 21st, 2007 16:08

thanks everybody, you're great :Dancing_wub:

JohnDale Jan 1st, 2008 11:21

Hi Bob, D5 is D5244T4 @ 185hp & 2.4D is D5244T5 @ 163hp. Thanks JohnDale

automotiverev Feb 6th, 2008 12:47

Volvo S40 2003 1.9D
 
Hi,
I'm new on here. I'm very interested in buying a Volvo S40 diesel, and in particular I have my eye on a 2003 Sport Lux model. I love the look of the car, but the only thing I'm unsure about is the engine in it. There seem to have been so many different diesel engines utilised by Volvo over the lifetime of the S40 that I'm left feeling very unsure. The particular car that I'm considering has 140,000 miles on the clock, hence my concern, although the current owner has said that it has a complete Volvo service history.

What I'd really like to know is who made the engine (Volvo, Mitsubishi, VW etc) and how reliable it is. I've been warned that there is a serious reliability issue with the diesel engined S40. I'm happy to buy high mileage and to treat the car with tlc, but I don't want to buy a mechanical problem.

Thanks for any help you can give!
John

RoyMacDonald Feb 6th, 2008 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by automotiverev (Post 364467)
Hi,
What I'd really like to know is who made the engine (Volvo, Mitsubishi, VW etc) and how reliable it is. I've been warned that there is a serious reliability issue with the diesel engined S40. I'm happy to buy high mileage and to treat the car with tlc, but I don't want to buy a mechanical problem.

Thanks for any help you can give!
John

I believe that it's a Renault engine. I have no personal experience but my diesel specialist advised me not to buy any Volvo with a Renault diesel engine. The car is made with other engines though.

Hope this is some help.

Roy

wise old monkey Feb 6th, 2008 18:17

made with other engines !?!?!?!?

RoyMacDonald Feb 6th, 2008 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by wickedteen (Post 364668)
made with other engines !?!?!?!?

1.8 petrol and 2.0 T petrol

automotiverev Feb 6th, 2008 20:48

Roy,
Thanks for your help. Do you know anyway of quickly identifying the engine? I'm planning to view the car this Saturday, so obviously if I can spot its a Renault engine then I can avoid it. I'm also interested in which diesel engine is the best in the pre-2004 S40. Any further information that you could give would be great...
Cheers,
John

Clan Feb 6th, 2008 21:13

The diesel engines in the S/V40 are Renault Based and in the S/V40 are very reliable , the later the better though i wouldnt get the old generation one up to 2000

D4192T 1996-1999 Mechancal with electronic timing control indirect injection
D4192T2 1999-2000 Mechanical with Direct Injection electronic timing
D4192T3 (115bhp) and T4 ( 105 bhp ) 2001-2004 Common rail fully electronic

The best ones are the T3 and T4 which can average 55 mpg and go quite well .

RoyMacDonald Feb 6th, 2008 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by automotiverev (Post 364767)
Roy,
Thanks for your help. Do you know anyway of quickly identifying the engine? I'm planning to view the car this Saturday, so obviously if I can spot its a Renault engine then I can avoid it. I'm also interested in which diesel engine is the best in the pre-2004 S40. Any further information that you could give would be great...
Cheers,
John

The only diesel that Volvo use for that model is Renault sourced.

I was thinking of the 2 litre petrol Volvo engine as being the best option for that car if you particully like it. If you want a diesel, personally I'd choose a Volvo with an engine made by Volvo or the Audi/VW group. There's a big choice of diesel models (but not the V40 I'm afraid) with your kind of budget.

Might be worth posting on the 400 series web site and finding out what the owner think. Clan has a different view though to my diesel specialist who encounter a lot of problems with them. I don't have any experience myself so I'm only giving you second hand information I'm afraid.

Roy

Clan Feb 6th, 2008 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald (Post 364833)
The only diesel that Volvo use for that model is Renault sourced.

I was thinking of the 2 litre petrol Volvo engine as being the best option for that car if you particully like it. If you want a diesel, personally I'd choose a Volvo with an engine made by Volvo or the Audi/VW group. There's a big choice of diesel models (but not the V40 I'm afraid) with your kind of budget.

Might be worth posting on the 400 series web site and finding out what the owner think. Clan has a different view though to my diesel specialist who encounter a lot of problems with them. I don't have any experience myself so I'm only giving you second hand information I'm afraid.

Roy

I would say the T4 is the nicest engine to drive not due to the power but the drivability and economy , on a certain journey of mine i cant get more than 34 mpg out of a 2 litre yet a T4 will do 38 mpg . so nothing lost at all and lots to gain ..

Regarding Diesel reliability , there are an awful lot of badly neglected pre 2000 S/V40's out there now most still going fine of course but inevitably there may be some finding their way to diesel "specialists" instead of main dealers when bodged by the back street garage .
The only problems are occasional turbo hoses bursting and coolant leaks when they changed the thermostat housing to plastic before reverting to alluminium again .. Once overheated this is going to lead to problems of course .

RoyMacDonald Feb 6th, 2008 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clan (Post 364848)
I would say the T4 is the nicest engine to drive not due to the power but the drivability and economy , on a certain journey of mine i cant get more than 34 mpg out of a 2 litre yet a T4 will do 38 mpg . so nothing lost at all and lots to gain ..

Regarding Diesel reliability , there are an awful lot of badly neglected pre 2000 S/V40's out there now most still going fine of course but inevitably there may be some finding their way to diesel "specialists" instead of main dealers when bodged by the back street garage .
The only problems are occasional turbo hoses bursting and coolant leaks when they changed the thermostat housing to plastic before reverting to alluminium again .. Once overheated this is going to lead to problems of course .

Thanks for that Clan....I didn't realise you had one. What kind of mileage are people putting on the best of the diesel engines?

I must confess to being a bit predudiced against Renault having bought a new one in my pre Volvo days and been less than happy with the aftersales disservice.

Your right that my diesel specialist is only going to see problem engines. In the early days of diesel for Volvo my main dealer used to send the car to them and charge me a fee on top for doing it. I know because they were quite upfront that that's what Volvo told them to do. Eventually I deceided that the Volvo For Life warranty wasn't worth paying their additional fee and took it straight there for any repairs.

Roy

Clan Feb 7th, 2008 20:05

Hi Roy
I don't own one but a few friends do/have and i have bee involved with them since they first came to life in the 300 series then 400 series and evolved into a very nice engine in the 2001 onwards S/V40 They are certainly less trouble than the new 2.0 D in the new S40/V50 . Mileage is not a problem , they don't wear out , but then neither do many makes of engine these days . Volvo dealers shouldn't farm out diesel work , they are issued with the tools and training to deal with them .

automotiverev Feb 7th, 2008 22:40

Clan,
As I'm going to view an 2003 S40 diesel this weekend, and you seem to have a good knowledge of them, have you any pointers for looking at a relatively high mileage one? The one I'm considering has 140k on, but the current owner says that it has a full Volvo service history. I'm looking forward to viewing it, hopefully it's as clean a car as it's current owner states.

Unfortunately I've no experience with Volvos, only Peugeots, Opels, and VWs. By the way, thanks for all your help so far!

John

RoyMacDonald Feb 7th, 2008 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clan (Post 365345)
Hi Roy
I don't own one but a few friends do/have and i have bee involved with them since they first came to life in the 300 series then 400 series and evolved into a very nice engine in the 2001 onwards S/V40 They are certainly less trouble than the new 2.0 D in the new S40/V50 . Mileage is not a problem , they don't wear out , but then neither do many makes of engine these days . Volvo dealers shouldn't farm out diesel work , they are issued with the tools and training to deal with them .

Thanks Clan.

According to the main dealer it was Volvo UK who told them to use First Diesel in Croydon. It was in 1991 though so maybe they didn't have enough trained diesel fitters back then. First Diesel had all the Volvo tools for the Diesel.

Roy

dbrisker Feb 18th, 2008 11:28

D5254T Power output
 
What is the power output for the D5254T engine in the 2000 V70?

RoyMacDonald Feb 18th, 2008 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrisker (Post 370944)
What is the power output for the D5254T engine in the 2000 V70?

140 bhp/4000 rpm 214 lbs/ft /1900 rpm CO2 172 g/km kerb weight 1528 kg

Roy

BillyBoy200uk Sep 28th, 2008 12:27

Excuse my ignorance, people have been saying that 2003 S40 diesels are Renault, i was under the impression that the Phase 2 models have Volvo engines fitted?? I have 52 plate S40 1.9D sport, was on 46k when i bought it....now on 102k...and no faults at all, and never less than 50mpg, as well as low emissions (143grams CO2 i think) therefore only £120 VED per year.

Clan Sep 28th, 2008 15:40

All the "Volvo" 4 cylinder diesels are Renault based starting from the D16 in the 300 series to the latest D4194T4 in the last S/V40 , they are evolved from the D16 unit ... which in itself was a conversion of the B172K Renault based petrol engine which started life in the 300 in 1986 .
The Renault based Engines have always performed well in a volvo and are fairly trouble-free and long-lasting ..
The Renault connection began when Volvo bought DAF in the 1970's , the first car volvo brought out was a modified DAF 66 which used Renault engines( Volvo 66 ) they continued that relationship all the way through until 2004 . The first B14 in the 300 was modified by volvo , it had better quality pistons , crankshaft and valves than Renault used . Later these mods found themselves in Renaults .
Renaults in turn use the Volvo B5254 in the Safran model and the B4204 from the V40 in the megane or Laguna .

monkee Oct 27th, 2008 10:34

So the VW lump in my `95 940 2.4se would definately be a D24Tic?
I have been trying to locate a repair manual,any ideas?

AMDEN Jan 12th, 2009 20:27

S40 1.6d
 
Could someone tell me which engine is fitted to the new S40 1.6d.
I don't have any problems but was just inquisitive to know which engine is fitted to my car. Could it be Ford or Mazda or would it still be a Renault based unit?

Clan Jan 12th, 2009 20:57

The 1.6 D is a unit used in a multitude of models but not Renault .
Volvo , Ford , Citroen Mazda Mini , Peugeot to name a few , its not a bad engine , all alloy which is nice and light . Capable of 60 + mpg in the lighter cars .

alv70d1999 Apr 15th, 2009 08:45

iv got a 1999 v70d and iv been told its the volvo engine....is that right or is it the audi engine?

Clan Apr 15th, 2009 18:28

No Volvo brought out their own D5 end of 2001 you have the very heavy VW/Audi 5 cylinder ( 36psi minimum front tyre pressures ) not a bad engine but the D5 is so much better..

Tattyoldvan Jul 25th, 2009 22:29

People with LT35s will be flocking to forum, The turbo lump pinched from a volvo a definate improvement. the non turbo lump makes it without doubt the most lethal van ever. 0-60 never


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