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Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 2738764)

Coincidentally when I chased the Dealer today Parts answered the phone, so I thought I'd ask them the question. They managed to call back within an hour but they've quoted just over £1200!?

I asked them to e.mail the quote and I can see the part numbers for the 'application' of assist (£577.67 exc vat) and for the 'hydraulic pump' (£165 exc vat) but they've also quoted £230 labour exc. vat and part numbers 32261831 CMS OB Application and 32261830 Elka level 2 application - prices for these minimal at £18.50 each exc. vat but anyone know what they refer to? Mine is a XC90 MY16 I have bliss, standard cruise control, city safety which I think is standard, cross lane assistance only and 360 camera if that helps.

The website says £1085 inc. VAT for fitting, so not sure what extras I'm being charged for? He seemed to suggest I needed the assist 'upgrade' too after the assist was installed? Am I right in thinking that £1085 was to include the pump (which I need) and that if not needed it was around £500? Sorry for all the questions.

Sorry, I've just found that those 2 parts numbers do make up the Intellisafe Support upgrade which is £75 inc fitting and VAT. So I'm thinking I just need that on top of the assist upgrade as my car is an older model (my16) v others on this thread that have had the same thing done?

Still perhaps should still be £1085 + £75 = £1160 so a bit less than how they've quoted it...

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Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 2738766)

They might have factored in time for the second software update, which sounds about right. For the £1,085 you get Pilot Assist version 1. PA2 is an additional charge, but I would imagine the time taken to install 1 software update and then another immediately after would be negligible, so the actual price may be a lot closer to the £1,160 than £1,200 in the end.

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Originally Posted by Carlos Primero (Post 2738619)

Thanks again.
I will try and contact them again.
I would have thought they would try and promote upgrades like this, even just from a commercial point of view.
If I don't get any joy from them I will try another Volvo select garage.

If it's the local dealer they probably want to sell you a new car instead. I'd try a different dealer.

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Originally Posted by js90 (Post 2738775)

Thanks for your help! I was just checking the details here

https://volvocarsaccessories.co.uk/A...ccessory/24998

and it does mention that for the £1085 you do get PA2...? so it looks like the additional upgrade (£75) is just for 'oncoming mitigation by braking'?

https://volvocarsaccessories.co.uk/A...ccessory/25147

It's very confusing and probably not helped that I'm looking on volvoaccessories.co.uk and .com as there is a lot more info. relating to individual part numbers of the .com site.

Sorry for my ignorance but is the difference between PA1 and PA2 just the speed range increase?

I think PA2 is supposed to use sat nav data to help with speed in cornering. I don't think I have PA2 because mine tends to get to some corners, over-egg it, lose the lane tracking and give up :D

I think that's what's supposed to have been fixed in PA2 by using nav data to predict turns ahead better.

That's only on A roads though. Works fine on the motorway, just my fault for trying to use it outside the system recommendations.

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Originally Posted by js90 (Post 2738758)

Was that the service department that told you it couldn't be fitted? Speak to parts, get them to find the relevant part numbers - I assume you need the pump and the software - get them to save a quote and then go back to the service department with the quote. If they still refuse, take your business to a competent dealer :D

Yeah
it was the guy who sold me the car.
I got the rear facing camera installed no bother.

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Originally Posted by AndyJudge (Post 2738776)

If it's the local dealer they probably want to sell you a new car instead. I'd try a different dealer.

I used the one on Scotswood Rd.

Could you recommend any others in the region?

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Originally Posted by Dixie (Post 2738784)

...so it looks like the additional upgrade (£75) is just for 'oncoming mitigation by braking'?

Yes, I paid ~£75 for oncoming mitigation to be added to my car.

Can I just ask with the safety aspects like Bliss with steer assist, does it totally prevent you from pulling out say when overtaking a car on the dual-carriage that you think say you've got enough room/time for, or if say you could see something ahead that meant it was safer to change lanes even though a car was coming up behind closer that had activated bliss lights in mirror....??

Just trying to work out if it's a gentle steer that you can override I guess by continuing to steer in the direction you want (so the car knows you are in control) or whether, as a safety aspect, it prevents you? My husband having never driven a car with these aspects is concerned that as a driver you're not totally in control of the vehicle. Obviously we totally appreciate these 'steer' functions are there 100% to help avoid accidents etc which is why we are seriously considering them in the first place.

Thanks in advance.

NB The garage agreed to price match the £1085 + £75 that is on the accessories website.

It's a gentle vibration through the wheel, and a bit more resistance to turning; you still have full control of steering.

Steve