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Prufrock Jan 9th, 2016 15:02

There's no doubt in my mind that any club or forum member who wished to sell their car will be better off selling via a website such as carandclassic.co.uk, rather than either sell to a dealer or even allow a sale on consignment - that is if they are not successful in selling on this forum.

The majority of Volvo's (200s, 300s, 700s) do not command very high prices in the market at the moment* - for example, what price would a truly immaculate 244 or 245 GLT command? Let's suggest a range of £2000 to £3500, if this is the case (and it's just an illustration) then a trader would want to buy that car for no more that £1000 to £2000 I would guess.

Yes, and someone stated the obvious that they're in business! Sell to a dealer and you're asking for a mugging. If a dealer wants to buy a car then they can surely search like anyone else would?

And wouldn't you rather buy your next classic Volvo from the owner rather than a dealer?

Jon
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

N.B to take up Dai's comment I think it is actually quite easy to give some price indicators.

KGF1 Jan 11th, 2016 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark1Stu (Post 2036059)
I personally don't mind these fishing expeditions by dealers, as I realise getting quality stock is always a challenge. And a tie up could benefit both parties.

However, it would be nice to get an idea of the price range KGF are prepared to offer for an outright buy. Personally, I'm not keen on the 'give us a call and we'll ask you how much you want for it' approach. Negotiating strategy and all that.

As an example, I've a 62,000 late model 240GLT estate (last of the high compression engine, recessed rear window examples - you can work out the year). Silver with black leather. Still has the black covers on the chrome wheel nuts. All original paint. No rust, no dents, no rips in the leather / headlining - nor scuffs on the bumpers

What is the price range you'd offer to buy it? Of course I realise you would need to see it (hence reference to price range) - but lets say it's condition one verging on concours.

Can you give me and others a better idea of what you'd potentially offer?

Nice web site and stock by the way.

Stuart

Hi Stuart

Yes you are right, getting good quality stock to sell is a challenge! We find that enthusiasts of a particular marque and club members tend to own prime examples and the ones we like to buy!

Price guides are helpful and there are many found in the back of classic car magazines but we value each car on an individual basis and look to make an offer based on a good chat and personal inspection. If the owner is happy with the price then we proceed with the purchase in a simple, straight forward manner.

Thank you for the positive feedback on our website and stock!

Karl

KGF1 Jan 11th, 2016 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prufrock (Post 2038642)
There's no doubt in my mind that any club or forum member who wished to sell their car will be better off selling via a website such as carandclassic.co.uk, rather than either sell to a dealer or even allow a sale on consignment - that is if they are not successful in selling on this forum.

The majority of Volvo's (200s, 300s, 700s) do not command very high prices in the market at the moment* - for example, what price would a truly immaculate 244 or 245 GLT command? Let's suggest a range of £2000 to £3500, if this is the case (and it's just an illustration) then a trader would want to buy that car for no more that £1000 to £2000 I would guess.

Yes, and someone stated the obvious that they're in business! Sell to a dealer and you're asking for a mugging. If a dealer wants to buy a car then they can surely search like anyone else would?

And wouldn't you rather buy your next classic Volvo from the owner rather than a dealer?

Jon
700/900 Register Keeper VOC.

N.B to take up Dai's comment I think it is actually quite easy to give some price indicators.


Hi Jon

Thank you for your observations. You are right, sometimes the owner of a cherished classic car would prefer to sell privately and that selling your car to KGF Classic Cars may not suit everyone for a number of reasons which could include:

1. Not knowing who the next owner of your car is
2. Feeling you have sold the car for less than it is worth
3. You enjoy selling cars!
4. Not agreeing with the principal of a business earning a profit

There are a number of owners who sell cars to us and some of the reasons for this are:

1. Avoiding dealing with potential buyers who do not proceed with the purchase or never had any intention of buying the car!
2. Strangers viewing the car at your home address
3. Avoiding uninsured test drives
4. Avoiding the money scams
5. Lack of time

Another option is our Commission Sale service if you are not content with our cash offer. I found this forum post from a customer we sold a car for which will give you a useful insight into the concerns and the eventual outcome.

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/he...opic80437.html

To conclude, we love cars and our customers normally love cars too! (Please see our Facebook page to help prove this! Here is the link - http://www.facebook.com/KGFClassiccars

It would be great to hear from some Volvo owners.

Best regards

Karl
01733 425140
07976 935046

KGF1 Apr 16th, 2016 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by KGF1 (Post 2039645)
Hi Jon

Thank you for your observations. You are right, sometimes the owner of a cherished classic car would prefer to sell privately and that selling your car to KGF Classic Cars may not suit everyone for a number of reasons which could include:

1. Not knowing who the next owner of your car is
2. Feeling you have sold the car for less than it is worth
3. You enjoy selling cars!
4. Not agreeing with the principal of a business earning a profit

There are a number of owners who sell cars to us and some of the reasons for this are:

1. Avoiding dealing with potential buyers who do not proceed with the purchase or never had any intention of buying the car!
2. Strangers viewing the car at your home address
3. Avoiding uninsured test drives
4. Avoiding the money scams
5. Lack of time

Another option is our Commission Sale service if you are not content with our cash offer. I found this forum post from a customer we sold a car for which will give you a useful insight into the concerns and the eventual outcome.

http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/he...opic80437.html

To conclude, we love cars and our customers normally love cars too! (Please see our Facebook page to help prove this! Here is the link - http://www.facebook.com/KGFClassiccars

It would be great to hear from some Volvo owners.

Best regards

Karl
01733 425140
07976 935046

Our latest copy of the Volvo Driver magazine has just hit the doormat and got us thinking, it's about time we had another classic Volvo. Please get in touch if you wish to sell yours.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

coaster22 Apr 19th, 2016 05:04

I agree with your comments. I haven't sold to KGF but have sold a number of cars to Classic and Sportscar in Malton East Yorks, no problems. I get what I want for the car money wise, the dealer makes his profit and the new owner / buyer is happy with the price he pays on the sale details. I don't have a parade of time wasters turning up at home or not turning up at all and all that hassle, plus any come back on items has been sorted by the dealer if any.
We undervalue 240s as enthusiasts , .... that's just my opinion.

KGF1 May 31st, 2016 15:30

Hello

We are still looking for another classic Volvo! If you have dug yours out for the spring/summer season and think you may wish to sell, please get in touch.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

KGF1 Aug 22nd, 2016 09:45

Hello

Our recently sold Volvo 144 Grand Luxe has reignited our love for classic Volvo's! Please do get in touch should you wish to sell yours.

Thanks
Karl
KGF Classic Cars
01733 425140
07976 935046

KGF1 Sep 20th, 2016 12:41

We are currently enjoying the use of our Volvo 760GLE Estate, having covered over 180,000 miles it's still going strong having been serviced at a Volvo main dealer on average every 6 months! The history file is incredible.

We're always looking for classic Volvo's, so please do get in touch should you wish to sell yours.

Best regards

Karl
01733 425140

geoffo Sep 20th, 2016 16:59

Used car salesmen
 
A few years ago I misguidedly went to look at a new Japanese sports car as part of my mid life crisis version 1. The poor salesman had a pretend cold in an attempt to gain empathy. He kept going on about how poorly he felt - but made a miracle recovery when rumbled - how peculiar. Anyone else?

Prufrock Sep 20th, 2016 17:33

Car dealers - modern and classic.
 
Salesmen ? Usually uninformed, lacking passion, often without social skills. Just look at how some cars are presented by dealers, and some of the hyperbole:..."all steel welded integral construction..."!!!

Jon


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