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nemesisthewarlock Sep 25th, 2021 17:28
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Originally Posted by Whippy (Post 2773272)
"Research by logistics analysts Transport Intelligence found that Germany was missing between 45,000 and 60,000 HGV drivers last year. That number is increasing, with the International Road Transport Union warning of a 185,000 shortfall there by 2027. Poland is short 124,000 drivers.

France has also faced a similar crisis, with the country facing a shortage of around 43,000 drivers since 2019. The shortfall in Italy in 2019 was estimated to be around 15,000, Transport Intelligence said. "

Definitely BREXIT then .........😂
No empty shelves in Germany, Poland and France!
No panic at the Petrol Station there either!
No Food Rotting in Fields!
No lack of Test Tubes for Blood Tests!
No Gas Price Hikes!

now as you say they have everything that we have except BREXIT!

So yes you are RIGHT Definitely BREXIT then .........😂

MG68 Sep 25th, 2021 17:28
This country is F@@Ked largely.

It was dog eat cat in the 80s and has only got worse since.

P poor government, too many people, cars etc etc.

I'm feeling like a Robinson Crusoe end to life without the life stress & BLX & Internet.

Having not had a mobile phone for 20 years has helped..

Whippy Sep 25th, 2021 17:47
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Originally Posted by Bonefishblues (Post 2773291)
You're bob-on, 20,000 fewer overseas hgv drivers are indeed causing serious issues on our roads.
And where are these drivers going to come from? Germany? Poland? Italy? France? Dream on.

If we paid proper wages for what is a boring, skilful, sometimes dangerous n dirty job with long hours away from home then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Bonefishblues Sep 25th, 2021 17:55
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Originally Posted by Whippy (Post 2773310)
And where are these drivers going to come from? Germany? Poland? Italy? France? Dream on.

If we paid proper wages for what is a boring, skilful, sometimes dangerous n dirty job with long hours away from home then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Not sure how your point relates to my post, could you explain.

nemesisthewarlock Sep 25th, 2021 17:57
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Originally Posted by Whippy (Post 2773310)
And where are these drivers going to come from? Germany? Poland? Italy? France? Dream on.

If we paid proper wages for what is a boring, skilful, sometimes dangerous n dirty job with long hours away from home then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Agreed, but the mismanagement of numerous governments of all stripes left us at the mercy of the market and we threw away our advantages in that market when Bojo enacted an extreme Tory Brexit..

Lincolnshire can't get cabbage pickers even offering £20 an hour.. it's access to seasonal labour that has gone with Brexit.. Land Army coming soon to a field near you..

MG68 Sep 25th, 2021 18:07
Apparently there is plenty of petrol & diesel at the UK refineries.

So this country was wholly reliant on European tanker drivers to maintain supply?

BLX.

Most people who would pop £20 of derv in the car have just put twice that and more in the tank.

To be on the safe side.

Class A muppetry - this country has been dumbed down & forgotten any social conscience / care for the neighbour for many years.

nemesisthewarlock Sep 25th, 2021 18:29
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Originally Posted by MG68 (Post 2773317)
Apparently there is plenty of petrol & diesel at the UK refineries.

So this country was wholly reliant on European tanker drivers to maintain supply?

BLX.

Most people who would pop £20 of derv in the car have just put twice that and more in the tank.

To be on the safe side.

Class A muppetry - this country has been dumbed down & forgotten any social conscience / care for the neighbour for many years.
Nope but we were reliant on them for just about everything else and the market is paying £10k bounties to poach drivers and encourage them to move from one area to another ..

I so agree on the social conscience and care for neighbours we look the other way and act for our own interests above all else and then wonder why successive governments do the same.

Public service is nearly dead killed off by privatisation and corporate greed .. :eek:

MG68 Sep 25th, 2021 18:47
This is just a rehearsal for when the UK has to go electric..

It's abundantly clear that there is not the infrastructure now, let alone 10 years time.

When this country is struggling now with electricity production, how is it suddenly going to cater for a nation on motor electricity?

It won't.

dped Sep 25th, 2021 18:50
Seems Petrol/diesel in the new toilet roll for a**e holes

Whippy Sep 25th, 2021 19:13
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Originally Posted by MG68 (Post 2773323)
This is just a rehearsal for when the UK has to go electric..

It's abundantly clear that there is not the infrastructure now, let alone 10 years time.

When this country is struggling now with electricity production, how is it suddenly going to cater for a nation on motor electricity?

It won't.
Agreed. You can build all the wind powered generators in the world but if the wind don't blow then you'll be ****ed. Then expecting to cope when all those happy 9-5ers come home and try and top up their plastic grey euro ****boxes with more angry pixies at six in the evening......well not difficult to imagine where we'll be is it.


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